thegroup Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 Hey...slick, I didn't realize you were 100% perfect.I retracted my statement, and apologized for wrongly correcting him. Hilarious didn't seem to have a problem with it...and neither did the original poster. Maybe instead of opening your trap, you could actually contribute to this thread... If you noticed, once I corrected myself after Hilarious pointed it out... it was correct information. One article is not enough research to solve anything, however...it is a great place to START and go from on a baseline. No two machines are the same...period. However, there are safe starting points, which...is what this poster was looking for. After searching for and reading a few of your posts...you are definitely no one to judge another... You can't even jet your own shit with basic, basic mods, and your worried about wasting a 2.00 plug for a chop when it costs about 75 times that for a new top end... Contribute something or go somewhere else...smart guy.... 518842[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ojcool Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 Hey...slick, I didn't realize you were 100% perfect.I retracted my statement, and apologized for wrongly correcting him. Hilarious didn't seem to have a problem with it...and neither did the original poster. Maybe instead of opening your trap, you could actually contribute to this thread... If you noticed, once I corrected myself after Hilarious pointed it out... it was correct information. One article is not enough research to solve anything, however...it is a great place to START and go from on a baseline. No two machines are the same...period. However, there are safe starting points, which...is what this poster was looking for. After searching for and reading a few of your posts...you are definitely no one to judge another... You can't even jet your own shit with basic, basic mods, and your worried about wasting a 2.00 plug for a chop when it costs about 75 times that for a new top end... Contribute something or go somewhere else...smart guy.... 518842[/snapback] Yeah, smart guy. You don't see me posting completly idiotic crap either. Your tone on your "informative post" was that of the wise carb guru taking the new guy under his wing... I was reading your post and it was so apparent you have no concept of physics or of how carburetors work it scared me that someone so poorly informed was taking it upon himself to give advice. I'm thirty years old bro. I have been working on cars my entire life. This is my first time seriously dealing with two stroke engines; I know how to read plugs. The only reason I posted was to get a starting point for jetting a bike I had made multiple changes on. See the difference and me and you is, I'll never blow up an engine. Because I have never tuned a car, and I will never tune a bike, on the edge. But "on the edge" is subjective; the question is what is your tolerance for risk vs. reward? You can pull an extra 20-30 hp out of a supercharged mustang, but is it worth letting a car go out the door that is tuned to run on 100+ octane fuel? Because people like YOU are going to drive strait down to the neighborhood Citgo and proceed to fill the car up with 87 Octane fuel and go out to show his buddies how fast his stang is. Then when the car detonates itself into 10,000 pieces while you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 Are you F**cking kidding me? The only thing that was correct in your statement is that you are 30 years old. I'm 29...I too have worked on cars AND dirt bikes/quads/snowmobiles, and just about every other small engine known, from weed eaters to lawnmower powered minibikes. You call it Idiotic crap?? Calling me out? Like I said, I'm glad you are so perfect you've never made a mistake. Go talk your car shit somewhere else. This is Bansheehq.com, not mustang this, supercharger that.com. I'm proud of you for working on cars. Obviously that hasn't translated an ouce of knowledge over to small engines. I'm one of the most cautious guys around...period. I Don't run incorrect fuel, oil, let my shit rattle till it blows up, etc. In fact, my motor probably only requires 105 octane but 110 is safe, so I use it. When I seek advice, I ask seasoned professionals who've been doing it for years, as well as forum members who's posts I've read in the past, and who's findings and experiences closely match my own. Why the f**K would I read corral forums? Is that a banshee/two stroke site? No...that's what this site is for.... The only similarities between a mustang and a banshee is they contain oil, gas, four rubber tires and those tires are black. Occasionally...an ass clown like you spouts off like you know something about either of them. I more than apologized for citing wrong information, and my reason for doing so. Furthermore, if the guy read that post, ran out and changed his jets, went for a rip and blew his shit up in the time it took someone to correct me...he should be in business of his own for working that fast. I never claimed or asserted I was some "guru taking him under my wing". Don't put words in my mouth, and don't assume you know what my intentions are or what I meant by them. You read it...leave it at that. If I have no clue on how carbs work then you better keep that quiet, I have quite a few friends who I've done work to their bikes, quads, etc., which seem to run quite well...and have for some time. You act like I wrote a shop manual or a bible...I gave advice, quickly retracted it..and quite humbly I might add. Do us a favor...sell your banshee and go back to your car forums. It's obvious you don't have a clue about two strokes, maybe you can convince someone over there you do. I'm no guru at all. But since this is your first experience with two strokes in your 30 years, and I've been riding them and working on them since I was 7 years old with my old man and my friends, SHUT THE FUCK UP... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 Yeah, smart guy. You don't see me posting completly idiotic crap either. Your tone on your "informative post" was that of the wise carb guru taking the new guy under his wing... I was reading your post and it was so apparent you have no concept of physics or of how carburetors work it scared me that someone so poorly informed was taking it upon himself to give advice. I'm thirty years old bro. I have been working on cars my entire life. This is my first time seriously dealing with two stroke engines; I know how to read plugs. The only reason I posted was to get a starting point for jetting a bike I had made multiple changes on. See the difference and me and you is, I'll never blow up an engine. Because I have never tuned a car, and I will never tune a bike, on the edge. But "on the edge" is subjective; the question is what is your tolerance for risk vs. reward? You can pull an extra 20-30 hp out of a supercharged mustang, but is it worth letting a car go out the door that is tuned to run on 100+ octane fuel? Because people like YOU are going to drive strait down to the neighborhood Citgo and proceed to fill the car up with 87 Octane fuel and go out to show his buddies how fast his stang is. Then when the car detonates itself into 10,000 pieces while you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ojcool Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 Are you F**cking kidding me? The only thing that was correct in your statement is that you are 30 years old. I'm 29...I too have worked on cars AND dirt bikes/quads/snowmobiles, and just about every other small engine known, from weed eaters to lawnmower powered minibikes. You call it Idiotic crap?? Calling me out? Like I said, I'm glad you are so perfect you've never made a mistake. Go talk your car shit somewhere else. This is Bansheehq.com, not mustang this, supercharger that.com. I'm proud of you for working on cars. Obviously that hasn't translated an ouce of knowledge over to small engines. I'm one of the most cautious guys around...period. I Don't run incorrect fuel, oil, let my shit rattle till it blows up, etc. In fact, my motor probably only requires 105 octane but 110 is safe, so I use it. When I seek advice, I ask seasoned professionals who've been doing it for years, as well as forum members who's posts I've read in the past, and who's findings and experiences closely match my own. Why the f**K would I read corral forums? Is that a banshee/two stroke site? No...that's what this site is for.... The only similarities between a mustang and a banshee is they contain oil, gas, four rubber tires and those tires are black. Occasionally...an ass clown like you spouts off like you know something about either of them. I more than apologized for citing wrong information, and my reason for doing so. Furthermore, if the guy read that post, ran out and changed his jets, went for a rip and blew his shit up in the time it took someone to correct me...he should be in business of his own for working that fast. I never claimed or asserted I was some "guru taking him under my wing". Don't put words in my mouth, and don't assume you know what my intentions are or what I meant by them. You read it...leave it at that. If I have no clue on how carbs work then you better keep that quiet, I have quite a few friends who I've done work to their bikes, quads, etc., which seem to run quite well...and have for some time. You act like I wrote a shop manual or a bible...I gave advice, quickly retracted it..and quite humbly I might add. Do us a favor...sell your banshee and go back to your car forums. It's obvious you don't have a clue about two strokes, maybe you can convince someone over there you do. I'm no guru at all. But since this is your first experience with two strokes in your 30 years, and I've been riding them and working on them since I was 7 years old with my old man and my friends, SHUT THE FUCK UP... 519841[/snapback] You write like you think......... Poorly. What can I say bro, you know it all. "the air is thinner up there so it flows into the engine easier" Wow, two words, basic physics. Like the kind you would have learned in "consumer chemistry" when you were in highschool. I guess you were too busy "fixing all your friends bikes" to go to class though. Stop crying and let it drop. It's amazing how tough people talk on the internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 (edited) Like Loco said...your first two stroke, and you can read plugs. I'm the rookie...you're the expert... You are the only one crying here...I'm not talking tough...I don't have to. Go back to your *****git car forums...maybe they will believe you know what the fuck you're talking about... In your great "basic physics" class you took, it sure didn't help you jet your basic modded banshee... Maybe you better think about what you posted here before you run your mouth joker.... I didn't realize you were a professional car builder, banshee know it all and a writer... Give it up...you're the only one you're impressing... Edited May 24, 2006 by dajogejr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ojcool Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Like Loco said...your first two stroke, and you can read plugs. Let me teach you something you must not know. Cars use sparkplugs as well. The banshee is not my first two stroke. I have worked on boats as well as small two stroke engines, however you are right in your assumption that the banshee is the first two stroke engine that I have modified in any way. I'm the rookie...you're the expert... I never called you a rookie nor myself and expert. I challenge you to find anywhere I have posted giving ANYONE advice on their banshee. You are the only one crying here...I'm not talking tough...I don't have to. Hmmm, lets look back in this thread. I posted that you may not be qualified to be giving people advice when you had posted inaccurate information. You proceeded to write me a book about how I was and idiot ect and knew nothing blah blah blah. As far as talking tough, I seriously doubt you don't have too. Go back to your *****git car forums...maybe they will believe you know what the fuck you're talking about... Are you lonely? In your great "basic physics" class you took, it sure didn't help you jet your basic modded banshee... Maybe you better think about what you posted here before you run your mouth joker.... Hmmm, if you think you don't need an understanding of "basic Physics" to work on any internal combustion engine I feel sorry for you. I didn't realize you were a professional car builder, banshee know it all and a writer... Give it up...you're the only one you're impressing... How much time do you spend on your posts? I have noticed that evey one has been edited. Why? As far as impressing people, I disagree, I have been passing my laptop around at work and letting people read your posts and I'm pretty sure they think your funny. I'm not sure that means I'm impressing anyone; so you may be right in that respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 1st off, I edited posts because I typo'd or mispelled a word. I know, I'm showing more of my imperfections. Cars use spark plugs, boy that's a new one on me. You really should teach a class... I hope you enlightened those you're passing the laptop around too. Hopefully they have more sense than you... Posting worthless car info on a Banshee site. Not only are you a professional mechanic, you're a physicist, a pro banshee/small engine mechanic, and a professional writer... How do I compete with that? You're the man... You did read the part about myself never riding outside of MI, so...I've never had to jet for altitude, only temperature. If I were a pussy, I'd delete my whole posts and mistake. However, I've left it up...no questions asked. Anyways, go jet your banshee, physics and jet master...oh, that's right...you can't even do that...yet you judge me for a basic mistake. I'm confused...you've worked on other engines, but this is your first time seriously dealing with a two stroke?? What does that mean? Oh...I get it. That's where you learned all about spark plugs...cause other than changing plugs, it's obvious you haven't done shit else with them... After your sorry ass posts and explanations, I wouldn't expect to see any Advice by you...unless we all need a laugh, including the circle jerk you're passing the laptop around with... Get a clue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ojcool Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 1st off, I edited posts because I typo'd or mispelled a word. I know, I'm showing more of my imperfections. Cars use spark plugs, boy that's a new one on me. You really should teach a class... I hope you enlightened those you're passing the laptop around too. Hopefully they have more sense than you... Posting worthless car info on a Banshee site. Not only are you a professional mechanic, you're a physicist, a pro banshee/small engine mechanic, and a professional writer... How do I compete with that? You're the man... You did read the part about myself never riding outside of MI, so...I've never had to jet for altitude, only temperature. If I were a pussy, I'd delete my whole posts and mistake. However, I've left it up...no questions asked. Anyways, go jet your banshee, physics and jet master...oh, that's right...you can't even do that...yet you judge me for a basic mistake. I'm confused...you've worked on other engines, but this is your first time seriously dealing with a two stroke?? What does that mean? Oh...I get it. That's where you learned all about spark plugs...cause other than changing plugs, it's obvious you haven't done shit else with them... After your sorry ass posts and explanations, I wouldn't expect to see any Advice by you...unless we all need a laugh, including the circle jerk you're passing the laptop around with... Get a clue... Wow, you really have no life. BTW I just finished a weekend jetting the space shuttle. Lets hope it won't blow up caused I used your theory on altitude correction factors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 (edited) That's pretty funny... Based on this post...I think you should go by what everyone is saying, rather than what the plugs say. Funny...you know how to read plugs, yet in this post you're asking for help since everyone else is running other jets. Well...plug master, if you had a clue, you'd know that PLUGS DON'T LIE....two bikes with identical mods next to each other could have totally different jetting... Again, plugs don't lie. Oh...I know...this is an old post, from November...in the last 6 months or so you've become the expert...my bad. http://www.bansheehq.com/forums/index.php?...topic=52229&hl= Make sure you pass this post around in your laptop circle jerk...that'll really impress your buddies and your "Skill"... Give up ass clown...you're only making yourself look worse. Edited May 31, 2006 by dajogejr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ojcool Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 That's pretty funny... Based on this post...I think you should go by what everyone is saying, rather than what the plugs say. Funny...you know how to read plugs, yet in this post you're asking for help since everyone else is running other jets. Well...plug master, if you had a clue, you'd know that PLUGS DON'T LIE....two bikes with identical mods next to each other could have totally different jetting... Again, plugs don't lie. Oh...I know...this is an old post, from November...in the last 6 months or so you've become the expert...my bad. http://www.bansheehq.com/forums/index.php?...topic=52229&hl= Make sure you pass this post around in your laptop circle jerk...that'll really impress your buddies and your "Skill"... Give up ass clown...you're only making yourself look worse. Sigh, If you read my post (even at your reading level) you can see that I had not even taken the plugs out of the bike yet. I asked if I should put a larger jet in to start with. Listen, I really don't have the time to go back and fourth with you about who is smarter; so let me just sum up all further post on my behalf to just three words........ YOU ARE GAY So from here on out you just post whatever you want and when you need a response from me, just read those three words, and continue on as if I was there. I'll check back with you in a week or two to see how your doing. Thanks, Stu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 Really? So...this isn't an exact quote from your post: "My question is, am I running lean? The plugs look okay but from reading you guys posts people are reccomending alot larger main jets even with just the box top off. I tried making the bike richer but it just runs so horrible in the midrange. I hate to be just tuning off feel but isn't feel a pretty good indicator? I don't run too much in WOT so midrange drivability is my major concern ( I ride alot of trails)" You're just proving what a jack ass you are. Let me get this right. First real dealings with a two stroke, yet...you can read plugs. OK...NOT. The above proves that. Isn't feel a pretty good indicator? Well...maybe if you like how your boyfriend's asshole feels, cause between that and your mouth...they probably have the same amount of shit coming out of them. You're concerned about midrange drivability...since you don't ride WOT. Ok...that's the best one. Put the smallest main jet in you can find...so you save gas of course, you don't use WOT. Just tune in the low and mid. If those statements right there don't spell out what a complete idiot you are, I don't know what does. You're right...there is not point going back and forth. You obviously don't have a clue or know what you're talking about. I AM GAY. Good one...obviously by your tuning skills and the rest of the shit you're spewin...that is the best you can do. Is that all you have? That's pathetic.... At least come up with something original or thought inspiring...12 year olds talk like that on a playground... Of course...they probably have more knowledge about this shit than you too... Check back and add as you like, I'm here all day and I'm not going anywhere...based on the post count of how many people have viewed this thread...your stupidity entertains them too... DJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Not trying to pile on cuz I don't know shit, but I found this line very entertaining....... "pilot about 1 1/4 turns out" . Let me know how that works, if there is better bottom end or not....maybe your on to something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ojcool Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 Really? So...this isn't an exact quote from your post: "My question is, am I running lean? The plugs look okay but from reading you guys posts people are reccomending alot larger main jets even with just the box top off. I tried making the bike richer but it just runs so horrible in the midrange. I hate to be just tuning off feel but isn't feel a pretty good indicator? I don't run too much in WOT so midrange drivability is my major concern ( I ride alot of trails)" You're just proving what a jack ass you are. Let me get this right. First real dealings with a two stroke, yet...you can read plugs. OK...NOT. The above proves that. Isn't feel a pretty good indicator? Well...maybe if you like how your boyfriend's asshole feels, cause between that and your mouth...they probably have the same amount of shit coming out of them. You're concerned about midrange drivability...since you don't ride WOT. Ok...that's the best one. Put the smallest main jet in you can find...so you save gas of course, you don't use WOT. Just tune in the low and mid. If those statements right there don't spell out what a complete idiot you are, I don't know what does. You're right...there is not point going back and forth. You obviously don't have a clue or know what you're talking about. I AM GAY. Good one...obviously by your tuning skills and the rest of the shit you're spewin...that is the best you can do. Is that all you have? That's pathetic.... At least come up with something original or thought inspiring...12 year olds talk like that on a playground... Of course...they probably have more knowledge about this shit than you too... Check back and add as you like, I'm here all day and I'm not going anywhere...based on the post count of how many people have viewed this thread...your stupidity entertains them too... DJ I noticed your still giving advice to people at elevation. I like how you tell the guy to run an extra 5 degrees of timing with 91 octane fuel.... Good advice. Keep it up...... boooooooommmmmmm See the truth is you don't really know anything about real tuning. The only way to truly know if your tune is safe is with an A/F meter. I'll bet you can't tell me what is considered save as far as A/F ratios. (too bad you can't use one on a two stroke to my knowledge) Plugs are not the end all be all for tuning contrary to your limited knowledge. And timing..... I'm not even going to bother trying to explain that one to you. Just keep advancing it untill it pings then back it off about 1/2 a degree. I'm sure you will get great results from that system, It's right up your alley. Should run like a dream.. BTW don't you have a job? Or you make your money "fixing all your friends bikes" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 You're such a joker... If you knew anything, which...we already knew you don't....you'd realize: 22cc is the stock dome size for a banshee. At or near sea level, that provides anywhere from 120 to 135PSI. Safe for 91 octane pump gas. Since he is futher above...like 1300 ft or so...that lowers compression even further. Since compression has more to do with the need for race gas than small advances in timing (yes...read that slow so it sinks in, SMALL advances in timing) this user is safe. You do know these bikes can run on 87 or 89 octane if jetted properly and left bone stock, right? Oh...nevermind, you're the expert...you already know that. An air fuel meter is another good way to tune. However...the majority of those are found in a dyno...in a room...right, smart guy? So...that dyno doesn't account for other elevation changes, which...clearly you're the expert on...or temperature changes. Actually...you can use an air fuel meter on a two stroke...jackass. Again, showing what you don't know. Wait...let's backup. First, you're telling me that the best way to tune is to use an A/F meter, then...you're telling me "to your knowledge" you don't know if you can use them on a two stroke. Well...smart guy, which is it? A/F is good, but...I stand by my statement, plugs don't lie. Plugs don't compensate...they tell the truth. Oh...and to answer your other question, here you go...the air fuel ratio changes as the engine idles, accelerates and decelerates. Do I know the exact ratios it should be at? No... Do I know the approxamate number? Yep. Do I own a dyno or A/F meter? Nope...do you? Guess it doesn't matter...since to your extensive knowledge, they don't work on a two stroke. Obviously, you've never been in a dyno room or watch one run. Again, due to the controlled circumstances of a dyno room vs. real world conditions....plugs are the true answer...smart guy. Yep...I've got a job. However...I was thinking of switching careers...it seems correcting you and laughing at your ignorace seems more promising at this point. Again, I'm here all day...every day. C'mon back some more...so you're clear, the others are laughing at you...not with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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