the kwik shift

[cam2]

eagle, can you provide some pics of this setup installed?

thanks.

[csrmel]

eagle, thanks for the reply but i have a few more questions if you wouldnt mind.

 

 

the brake lights on a banshee are operated by a contact switch right by the kickstart. it doesnt clog with sand or when going through water fo that matter. why would a switch mounted by the shift lever get clogged if you used a couple contact switches like the brakelights do?

 

i can see what you are saying about the speed, theoretically their setup would be twice as fast as a backyard setup like i had thought about. however i wonder if a contact switch wouldnt provide most of the benefits (clutchless shifting) at 5% of the cost. what im thinking is that even with a contact switch its still gotta be alot quicker than using the clutch?

[blowit]

eagle, thanks for the reply but i have a few more questions if you wouldnt mind.

the brake lights on a banshee are operated by a contact switch right by the kickstart. it doesnt clog with sand or when going through water fo that matter. why would a switch mounted by the shift lever get clogged if you used a couple contact switches like the brakelights do?

 

i can see what you are saying about the speed, theoretically their setup would be twice as fast as a backyard setup like i had thought about. however i wonder if a contact switch wouldnt provide most of the benefits (clutchless shifting) at 5% of the cost. what im thinking is that even with a contact switch its still gotta be alot quicker than using the clutch?

 

 

The push/pull style brake switches cannot be tuned to near the precision repeatability of a contactless switch. Our kits are designed with overload, regulation, and highly precise circuits to ensure exact shift settings. Common switches just won't work for this and our kit allows the rider to tune the cut point and duration with the turn of a screw and the switch can never fail due to no moving parts. Sorry, we don't have any pics of the kit installed but it installs with a small braket on the shift shaft and it totally invisible to other riders. You can hear it work but not see it. Please don't don't confuse the kit with just a simple timer. All components are very precise for professional riders. Hope that helps a bit.

 

Brandon Mull

Mull Engineering

[eagle]

Cam2,

 

I didn't take any pictures when i installed the kit, but I can shoot a couple of the bike with the kit installed. Is there something specific you want me to take a shot of?

 

Csrmel,

 

I don't really know why the switch you mention wouldn't work. I think those kind of switches might be better sealed or something. Looks like Brandon at ME found us, so see his resopnse on that. I'd say if you have the time and smarts to do it, go for it.

 

In my experience with the kit though, I can say that if the kit is not perfectly tuned for the shift point, you'll have a sore foot. You can't move the shifter when it's under load so you have to find that tiny sweet spot when setting the shift point. The cutout time helps the system engage as soon as your foot is at the top of the travel. I would have tried the switch like you said, but I did some research which kind of confirmed what mull engineering says. Plus, I just didn't have the tools and know-how to put something like that together. The screws on the little box, allow you to tune the system to that sweet spot in about 20 minutes of testing.

 

In reference to prices - I also looked at retrofitting a kit offered by MSD, but heck you have to have their ignition and then buy this add on thing to let it cut the ignition. It was over $300 I think. I also didn't want to buy something that would be touch to retrofit on my banshee.