kslawdog Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Hi, just found the site and its great. I did a search for my problem and got alot of answers but still confused about one thing. I just bought my first shee. its a 2006 and im less than a 1/4 tank thru break in period. All stock. The dealership guy said to run my oil mixture at 40:1 with yamalube 2R. He said the extra oil will help out for prolonging life of the motor. My question is that the owners manuel says to run 24:1. Isnt 40:1 less oil than recommeded? The bike smokes quite a bit now and loads up but was told this would be normal during breakin. This guy seemed to know his shit and said he had an 05 shee. I also noticed that almost none runs 24:1 mixture in the searches I read. Thanks for the help guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odaen Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 I've used yamalube since I've had my banshee(s) and it's proven to be good premix for me. I run it at 32:1. I don't think there's any harm at all if you wanted to run it at 24:1, it's just more expensive. You might foul some plugs too, dunno. Many people run mixtures at 50:1 with some of the newer synthetic oils, but I'd rather foul plugs than have premature wear on my components, so I play it conservative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odaen Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 BTW, good luck with her, and welcome to HQ. Some good people and good info on here. Sometimes you just gotta dig for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endofitall9 Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 24;1 is really rich mix.....more oil=more money. you can run 50;1 but I believe any chnage in gas oil mixture you will have to rejet to compensate for the differences......also if your loading up at 24;1 its running rich.....^^^^ you want to get it where it will idle nice and not load....good luck and welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazywheelerman365 Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 I've used yamalube since I've had my banshee(s) and it's proven to be good premix for me. I run it at 32:1. I don't think there's any harm at all if you wanted to run it at 24:1, it's just more expensive. 492264[/snapback] I agree , and welcome to the site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
810darren Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 your right 40 to 1 would be less oil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shee-Male Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 You will have to rejet if you change your mix, 24:1 would be LEAN (more oil, less gas) where as 50:1 would be more rich (more fuel, less oil) If it is loading up now I would run at 32:1 for the new motor and then re-jet if nessesary. Your best bet is to go out there and beat on it, drive it like you stole it, this will seat the rings which is the only thing you need to break in on a 2 stroke, this whole long break in proccess was designed for 4-strokes with camshafts and all that extra crap that robs horsepower So get out there and give 'er and work from there. Welcome to the HQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomey Banshee Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Ive run nothing but yamalube in my 99 that I brought home new on July 4, 1999. Started at 24-1 with the first 2 or 3 tanks, now run 32-1. Rebuilt once and we ride the piss out of that bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kslawdog Posted March 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Great, thanks for the info. Next question is what are the simplest and least expensive mods for my buck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILO Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 (edited) i would think that 40:1 is pretty lean for breakin purposes. that is less oil than 24:1, or 32:1, so as far as 40:1 providing better protection, that's bass ackwards. i ran 24:1 for the first 2 tanks or so in mine when it was new, then switched to 32:1 after and still run it. as far as mods, nothing is going to breathe life into your shee like a set of pipes, new air filter kit, and rejetting to compensate. it's not cheap, probably like around $500 to guesstimate, but without them anything else will only produce minimal gains. that's your first best move, then intakes/reeds. after that it's only limited by your budget, the mods are endless. Edited March 25, 2006 by MILO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshee~ Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 I have always ran belray H1R 32:1 synthic. Get an airbox kit from nossmachine.com if you want to keep the airbox on (must do). Then next get some kind of aftermarket pipes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daryn c Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 32 to 1 is the best mixture for a stock shee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80overShee Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Fuel/Oil mixture is one of those topics on here that gets everyones 2-cents. I ran Yamalube 2R at 32:1 when I first bought my Shee. The guy I bought it from ran that and said it did great. I checked my compression later and it was at like 105 lbs. I did a rebuild and switched to AmsOil Saber. It is proven (whatever) for mixes at 100:1. I run mine at 60:1-70:1 depending on the weather (beats rejetting for temp changes) and since my rebuild I have gained 2lbs of compression after 20 hours of run time. I believe it is around 140 right now at stock dome. Oil mixture is 50% science, 50% preference since no one can come up with a solid, set in stone statement otherwise. I just know I get about 40% more oil mixture for my money by using Saber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capone Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Better run a oil rich mixture, you're @ .80 over... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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