Wallrat Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 Taller tire + smaller rim will allow the tire to elongate more as you pick up speed, thereby giving you more speed on top and not sacrificing any on the bottom. Rip, for your mods there's no way you should run anything other than an 8 paddle-non extreme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripassbrother Posted March 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 K so we figured out that the 8 paddle is fine. Now help me on the wheel size and tire. I like to drag and really want a tire to grab, but I also like to shoot the hills. So what would be my optimal size? I was running 20/10/10 9 paddle hauler before. Quick question, my girlfriends banshee has the same mods as mine and she runs regular 8 paddle haulers. Yet my bike is faster and shoots out of the hole better then hers. You don't think that has anything to do with the paddles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallrat Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 (edited) The extra paddle will get you out of the hole quicker but you'll suffer at speed. If you were doing 100ft drags then the 9 paddle would prolly be quicker for ya. But for any actual length track you'll be faster on 8's. With regard to size. A smaller wheel (not tire) will be lighter and will also let the tire elongate more, giving you better top speed w/out sacrificing the bottom end. On the other hand, a smaller wheel will allow more tire roll during turns so the handling won't be nearly as nice as a 10" wheel. Bigger diameter tires emphasize both of these attributes. Edited March 10, 2006 by Wallrat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtm03 Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 22x11x8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripassbrother Posted March 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Sorry guys this is a stupid question but it goes height with and wheel size right? so a taller tire will grip better then a shorter because it elongates more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallrat Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 First # - Tire diameter. Bigger handles worse, but elongates more at speed. Most duners run a 20". Most draggers use a 22". You'll need to change your gearing if you change this number from what you ran before. Diameter has nothing to do w/ grip. 2nd # - Tire width. Wider tires float better and get more grip. But they also create more drag and are heavier. 3rd # - wheel diameter. I think I pretty much explained this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripassbrother Posted March 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2006 thanks guys for all your help, I think Im going to stick with the 20/10/10 and this time use the Extreme but go down to a 8 paddle. I'll let you know how it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallrat Posted March 11, 2006 Report Share Posted March 11, 2006 That setup will handle well but still overpaddle your shee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justintoxicated Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 (edited) I think it is a good choice, the extremes will last longer and will will work well if you add some mods. These will probably perform identical to what you had before 9 paddle hauler will work about the same as a 8 paddle extreme. Edited March 21, 2006 by Justintoxicated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripassbrother Posted March 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Well when I went to SMI to buy my tires the guys there talked me out of the 8's and said go with the 9's. So I did. Rode it yesterday. I took my girls 8's off her shee to make the comparison. Night and day difference. I couldnt tell loosing any top end speed and out of the hole was assome. Im glad I went with the 9 extremes. thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallrat Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Wait...how much do you weigh? How long is ur swingarm? Is the sand there really dry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtm03 Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 of couse its gonna be great out of the hole, but I guarantee your losing top end speed.....I dont think you would feel it.....you would probably need to use a radar gun......think of it like this, can you tell the difference between 60 and 65 mph in your car on the freeway? I know I wouldnt......Like I said before I'm not trying to put you down, just trying to help.....with your mods that is WAY over paddling your bike........but as long as your happy with it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallrat Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 I've been here a dozen times dtm... It amazed me at first how people seem to always feel that more=better when it comes to paddles. I've gotten pretty animated trying to get my point across. Now I just shake my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtm03 Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 lol......oh well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Wallrat & Dtm, I'm new here but it's like this with everything. I'm into old cars & trucks. With old trucks, they will run faster with a dual plane intake because it makes more torque(tq is ET) but actually make less HP(HP is mph). So what do people do after they ask for help? Go buy a single plane intake that operates between 3500-7500 rpm. There rig will actually be slower but will make more HP. People always want the "bigger #" even if there actually taking a step in the wrong direction. I promise yuh man, when I get a shee I'm going to get 8 paddles. I rode one with 9 and you could tell it was over paddled. Ran well but didn't "R" up as fast since it was lugging it somewhat. Thanks for all your guys pointers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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