banshee223 Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 I was just wondering what size swingarm that I should get for my 2000 banshee, my mods are listed in my sign. It has a -3.5 right now but I also want a longer swingarm so that I can sanddrag and also play in the sand and trail ride, also what size chain would I need with whatever swingarm I get. I don't really wont something to long so that it still will corner good but won't want to flip over every time I hit the gas. thanks Aaron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CombatTalon2 Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 For sand and your mods i would go with a +4. as far as trail riding goes, you could probably get away with it, but you will be pretty long as well as wide with your front end. I have a +4 swinger with +2+1 A Arms up front, and I ride the desert and Dunes and it does really well. Light years better than stock. as far as your chain goes, buy a long chain see what you need. I think i bought a 120 link chain for my setup and removed 4 links if i remember correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banshee223 Posted February 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 +4 is what I thought about going with but I wanted some opinion on it to see if that is what I need for it to ride good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bansh88 Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 Anything over +4, you MUST revalve yoyur rear shock. You can stick with a stock shock at +4. 120link chain and then take off as necessary. Sprocket sizes will slightly affect chain length. I love my +4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chase@miamiatv.com Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 (edited) for what you say you would like to do +4 , i run a + 8 and its a bit long for trail riding. so i turnd that bike into ashpalt only . forget long weelies go with the +4 i had to add about 10 links for the +8 i dont have a problem with the bike flipping at all witht he +8 and i have videos to prove i can get that bike a bit sideways with ease Edited February 19, 2006 by chase@miamiatv.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banshee223 Posted February 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 so a +4 and a 120 link chain will work good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kb7kuh Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 I just went from stock to a +4 and love it. it still wants to go skyward when I launch it in second gear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justintoxicated Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 (edited) I love my +2, with porting it's right to the point where the front end is weightless when in the power I can bring it up or drop it down by pulling up on the bars, or shifting my weight a litte forward... Have the front end like this relly helps through the chop and transitions. Helps with draging too, but not as much as a +4 would. I'm mostly setup for dunes as I find drag racing boring after a short while...I might have to sell it though when I switch to cubs, I will probably go with a +4 with 4 mil cubs. I would revalve your shock for ANY swingarm size change, having mine done for a +2 made a HUGE difference. I will re-valve again if I decide I need a +4. Sounds to me like you would be perfect with a +2, my next one may be another quicksand. Edited February 21, 2006 by Justintoxicated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banshee223 Posted February 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 how well would a +2 work over a +4 in trail riding or dune rideing, I would like to be able to launch it in second and ride up on the gas tank for it not to jack a wheelie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallrat Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 (edited) Personally I like the +2 better than the +4. I've ridden both right after riding stock length and the +2 feels pretty close to normal but the +4 just feels like my ass end is way behind me. You still get pretty good handling w/ the +4 but its definately worse than stock or even the +2. Pretty much if you wanna dune with ur bike you wanna get the shortest swingarm possible for your power. I'd agree that the +2 sounds about right for your mods/riding style. I'm desperately in need of a +2 for my stroker as well. Edited February 22, 2006 by Wallrat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justintoxicated Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 how well would a +2 work over a +4 in trail riding or dune rideing, I would like to be able to launch it in second and ride up on the gas tank for it not to jack a wheelie. 476943[/snapback] Thats going to depend on gas tank size/weight, rider skill and riders weight, number of paddles, weight of front tires, weight of rear tires, gearing, Torque etc,although typicaly (at least if your setup right) a +4 will still give you an advantage in a drag launch, then again, a +6 witht he right paddles can give you yet a better launch, and a +12 better (if you have the HP and hookup) It's not all about the launch though, Winning a race due to a better launch will also greatly depend on the length of the drags, number of paddle tires HP, gearing etc... All around a +2 is great for about 70 HP, but if you plan to have 90 or 100 a +4 might be a better choice, and will DEFINATELY help in either case for launching in a drag race. (There is no perfect answer for your question) Like I said I mostly dune so I'm setup for riding not dragging and I love my +2, it was too hard to ride with stock length with my mods +2 makes a noticable diference. If you want to drag race more than ride I would go with something longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banshee223 Posted February 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 I wonder if getting a +2 swingarm would affect riding wheelies, I wouldn't think so but just wondering, thanks for the advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallrat Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 Any change to the swingarm length is going to affect wheelies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justintoxicated Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 (edited) I can wheelie like crazy if I want to (it's just right cause I wheelie too much with stock length), but I don't even have a long rod 12-port, just regular Edited February 25, 2006 by Justintoxicated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banshee223 Posted February 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 well i think i'm going to order a +2, what size chain do you think i need, my gearing right know is 13-41 but i would like to be able to change gearing a little bit if I have to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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