dajogejr Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 I'm building a 4 mil cub in the next month or so. I'm looking at the direct drive lockup clutches. I play drag with my buddies most of the time, but...still want to be able to run some trails. NOT Tight, whooped out trails...but, fire road style... What are the cons of having a lockup style clutch? I already know the clutch bascially can't or won't slip, it will last longer...and I don't have to run as tough of springs...but, what are the demons? Thanks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigboybanshee Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 So far, i haven't run into any problems with mine. I really don't anticipate any problems out of it, considering all it does is add more pressure to ensure the clutch is grabbing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banshee tuner Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 I would say the only cons is the price and the extended case might get in the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ls7colorado Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 dont all clutches lockup???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
race-a-holic Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 (edited) All clutches engage.It's just that once you really start making big horsepower or the clutches get worn they can't handle it and start slipping.The lock-up just helps them not to slip.No sence putting alot of money into a motor and lose it through the clutch. Edited February 12, 2006 by race-a-holic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ls7colorado Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 Well thats what i was guessing, but a clutch is still a clutch. All clutches are made to LOCK UP. So it I wouldnt call it a lockup clutch is just a hi performance clutch! Sorry I had to be a smert AZZ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted February 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 (edited) I would say the only cons is the price and the extended case might get in the way. 472277[/snapback] It's only 120 from direct drive. Nothing, compared to the thousands you can dump in a motor... How much extra does the side case stick out...you got a pic by chance? the pics on their sites don't do it justice...I don't think... They show one on, but without the side case modded. http://www.directdrivecnc.net/banlockout.html Edited February 12, 2006 by dajogejr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malott 1 Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 It adds about a 1 1/4" to the side of your clutch cover. You won't notice it. In my opinion it is money well spent. If you are running the lock up you can still run your stock springs then you don't have the heavy pull of the stiff clutch springs alot of people run and your clutch is going to last along time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueshee03 Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 Well thats what i was guessing, but a clutch is still a clutch. All clutches are made to LOCK UP. So it I wouldnt call it a lockup clutch is just a hi performance clutch!Sorry I had to be a smert AZZ! 472284[/snapback] its not a clutch at all, but rather a clutch lockup.works with centrifical force and the more the motor revs ,the more pressure it applies to the clutch pressure plate.its a great investment for higher hp and torque motors exspecially if your drag racing.i have noticed that in time it will put wear marks on the pressure plate where the fingers apply pressure.if you do go with a clutch lockup,be sure to also install a bearing kit also to prevent the clutch adjuster,ball and pushrod from melting themselves together and possibly even melting pushrod to the inside of tranny shaft.the bearing kit only costs 40-50 bucks and is a great investment even if you run a totally stock banshee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 there are no cons...get one, ull like it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkabina Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 Here is a picture of mine if it helps you at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lightninn Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 It's going to require you to put spacers on your right foot peg to clear the extended cover. This also means longer bolts on the peg. I also had to tweak the brake pedal to work well with the wider cover. I've never ran a lockup except on engines with an override transmision. If you are still manually shifting with the stock transmission, the lockup may make shifting a little harder. Seems to me the lever would become much harder to pull when the lockup is engaged. Something to consider. I've also heard a stock clutch setup using an aftermarket HD clutch pack can handle 70-75HP before slipping becomes an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHead Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 its not a clutch at all, but rather a clutch lockup.works with centrifical force and the more the motor revs ,the more pressure it applies to the clutch pressure plate.its a great investment for higher hp and torque motors exspecially if your drag racing.i have noticed that in time it will put wear marks on the pressure plate where the fingers apply pressure.if you do go with a clutch lockup,be sure to also install a bearing kit also to prevent the clutch adjuster,ball and pushrod from melting themselves together and possibly even melting pushrod to the inside of tranny shaft.the bearing kit only costs 40-50 bucks and is a great investment even if you run a totally stock banshee. 472338[/snapback] Does anyone have picture or a diagram of what the pancake bearing replaces? I am loading putting together a new motor and I swear this new bearing set up I have does not look like the old one I have in the bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNBRAD Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 The only con I can think of is more rotational mass that your engine has to overcome. If your clutches slip, then obviously it is a benefit. If your clutches aren't slipping without it, then it's a disadvantage. There's a price for peace of mind knowing your clutches won't slip, cause if they do, it may cost you a race. If your running high HP and you can't take the risk of a slipping clutch, then it would be a must. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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