Blue Duece Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 hey whats up my name is matt and im kinda new here. if you acctually belive that there is a "God" and worship him and all that your just wastin your time matt 457256[/snapback] hi Matt and welcome to the HQ, im JIm ive been here a while, and i just read your post and im thinkin "goddamm this Matt kid might be on to something" with there is no god, granted you or I have never seen him, and are pretty much just pissing in the wind with our statements, can you please explain to me how i got here(aside from i was in my dads nuts) cause ive never seen a fosil of half fish half monkey, ..........signed ............confused on the HQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtplay1975 Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Ok guys I am gonna throw in my 2 cents worth, not sure why but oh well here it goes. First I want to say that to be gay is not a chioce, a gay person could no more sleep with someone of the opposite sex than a straight person could sleep with someone of the same sex. Afterall think about it why would someone choose to be gay and be in a minority that tends to be looked at as an outcast and disgusting. Its just how things are and how you were ment to be plain and simple, some are straight, some gay, and some even bi. Furthermore not all gay guys are feminine, Hell there are some that would totally suprise you. In my case I own and ride a Banshee, Blaster, and a CR125, as well as several cool cars not to mention build hot rods and musclecars. You never know it but someone close to you could be gay and with things you say they could be quite hurt, think if someone you were close to like a friend or family member was in the closet and gay, its not easy trust me. Hell it takes alot to offend me and afterall its america everyone has their opinion and we are free to do so, thats what makes america so great, we are free to do whatever we want. As for the movie I doubt I will ever go see it, its not my thing, afterall who wants to ride a cowboy when you can ride a Banshee anyway at least the Banshee has alot more attitude and is more faithful lol. Hollywood is in the buisness to make money and they will do what they think will sell no matter what it is. Just remember I dont slam you guys for being str8 so please treat everyone with respect, afterall there arent enough places to ride for everyone to hate everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRed350x Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 (edited) I don't have any sides, nor do I care if people are gay or not. What gets to me is when they try and convince other people that they are "normal" I'm sorry, but it's nor normal. If it were, we wouldn't be around as a species. Gays, Bisexuals, whatever, I don't care. Just don't try and tell people you are normal. I dated a bisexual girl for a long time. She was pretty damn cool, and showed me some stuff that the ladies love now-a-days. So I have no problem with that. lol It doesn't matter to me either way. If some guy came rubbing up on me though, he would find himself at the end of my 9mm real fast. Shouldn't we all just go out and ride our banshee's and stop going on and on about this crap? Edited January 10, 2006 by BigRed350x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaFish Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 alright Jim , here is my point of view on the whole "god" deal. first of all ok where to start??? well then ummmm lets start with, how is it that murder is a sin but at the same time the christians killed, murdered, and burned 10s of thousands of pagans at the stake. at the same time "god" created "all" man equal to one another, how does that justify the christians killing the pagans? furthermore, how does the idea of heaven work if everyone is a sinner, even the hardcore biblethumpers live and die as a sinner? also, if "god" is so great and mighty why did he wait 250million years to put his "children" on this planet and attempt to tell his "story." if "god" meant for us to have a good life why does he put so much evil, dishonesty, hurtfull things and people to fuck up your suposed "good" life. why would he want you to suffer? people who belive in god are closed minded, have no sense of choice, they are mindless bastards scared of the real world lookin for a cop-out and someone to rub their back and tell em "its gunna be ok, when you die your gunna live a care free, good life." but why can't you live a care free good life now? why do you have to suffer for X number of years to then go on and live a good life? why would god have us suffer on earth so that we can live in bliss after we die? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Duece Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 alright Jim , here is my point of view on the whole "god" deal. first of all ok where to start??? well then ummmm lets start with, how is it that murder is a sin but at the same time the christians killed, murdered, and burned 10s of thousands of pagans at the stake. at the same time "god" created "all" man equal to one another, how does that justify the christians killing the pagans? furthermore, how does the idea of heaven work if everyone is a sinner, even the hardcore biblethumpers live and die as a sinner? also, if "god" is so great and mighty why did he wait 250million years to put his "children" on this planet and attempt to tell his "story." if "god" meant for us to have a good life why does he put so much evil, dishonesty, hurtfull things and people to fuck up your suposed "good" life. why would he want you to suffer? people who belive in god are closed minded, have no sense of choice, they are mindless bastards scared of the real world lookin for a cop-out and someone to rub their back and tell em "its gunna be ok, when you die your gunna live a care free, good life." but why can't you live a care free good life now? why do you have to suffer for X number of years to then go on and live a good life? why would god have us suffer on earth so that we can live in bliss after we die? 457545[/snapback] people kill people cause we have free will, see now your asking me questions, i never said there was a god, you said there wasnt, so what then einstien? you certainly are positive theres no God so you must know something the rest of us dont Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwill Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Alright back to Brooke-come on baby spice this up with some details fuck the G-rating-Loco and I will listen to you and appriciate your veiw on past experiences Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallrat Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Hey Matt, I agree with you 100% but BD asked how he got here, not how is religion a bad thing. Personally I see nothing wrong with believing in a god, I just can't stand ORGANIZED religion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUSH THE THROTTLE Posted January 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Personally I see nothing wrong with believing in a god, I just can't stand ORGANIZED religion. 457581[/snapback] ORGANIZED and fanatical religion are two seperate things that seem to get blurred anymore. I don't see how you could be against families getting dressed up and heading to church on Sunday morning to share in the word of the Lord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallrat Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Couldn't they do that on their own? Why just Sunday even? I say the best place for a church is your own home. Name your denomination and I can find a church of theirs that's built on million dollar property, has extravagence that rivals some mansions, and overlooks the ocean. If you must have a church, build something humble or use a school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banshee04le Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Oh boy, you got to be kidding me... Matt, your opinion is noted sir and your position is understandable as it is a product of the intentional degredation of our social/moral fabric by "globalist" elements. I don't propose or intend to challenge or change your belief but here is an alternate viewpoint for consideration nontheless. Jesus came to warn us of and save us from "religion". The people who killed Jesus ruled with their religion of laws, ceremony and ritual and they didn't disappear when Christianity began to spread...they re-organized and infiltrated the movement just as Jesus warned that they would. Jesus freed us from the ceremony and ritual of religion (Colossians 2 16-17 KJV- Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days. Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. NNT- Consequently, no one can call you to account on rules of food and drink, or on observances of a festival, or a new moon, or a sabbath. For they were only symbols of future realities. The sum total of these realities is Christ)...Jesus restored your free-will whether you know it or not. When you begin to realize the religious goal of the proposed "new world order" on the horizon, you will begin to appreciate the message of Jesus. From my research perspective the following actually represents a pretty good timeline of the "crusades". SCARLET AND THE BEAST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUSH THE THROTTLE Posted January 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Couldn't they do that on their own? Why just Sunday even? I say the best place for a church is your own home. Name your denomination and I can find a church of theirs that's built on million dollar property, has extravagence that rivals some mansions, and overlooks the ocean. If you must have a church, build something humble or use a school. 457611[/snapback] I don't go to church anymore not because I disagree with the idea but because they aren't like my hometown church. I grew up going to a church that was built in the 1800's and the only major expenses added were a wheelchair elevator and headphones for the older people who couldn't hear. Anymore they keep building these churches that look nothing like a church and they spend way too much so I do agree with you there. Last church I went to (in college) they passed out a package one day that said every student was responsible to give $750 and also get $X amount from others. I didn't agree with it and never went back. That "church" already owed $1,800,000 on that facility and was wanting the money for their new addition that was gonna cost $2,600,000. WTF. Needless to say my point is that there are still good churches out there but alot of these new age churches are screwed beyond belief. I like churches that look like churches and that pass the offering tray with the intended option to put money in and not the expected goal to get your money. I think these missionary drives are rediculous too but that's another story. The vast majority of people who attend church are there to share the word of the Lord not to pay the bankroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallrat Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 that pass the offering tray with the intended option to put money in Oh crap your only supposed to give money? I thought it was like one of those need a penny, take a penny kinda things. I'm not saying all churches are bad man, but as a whole, I think religion would be alot better off if it wasn't a source of wealth and power (anywhere). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUSH THE THROTTLE Posted January 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 I'm not saying all churches are bad man, but as a whole, I think religion would be alot better off if it wasn't a source of wealth and power (anywhere). 457630[/snapback] They say money is the root of all evil, but then how do you base evil without a moral compass of some sort? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallrat Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Call it religious influence on society if you want, but somehow I'm able to make good decisions and be a good person even though I don't have a book telling me how to do it or a carrot known as heaven dangling in front of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUSH THE THROTTLE Posted January 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Call it religious influence on society if you want, but somehow I'm able to make good decisions and be a good person even though I don't have a book telling me how to do it or a carrot known as heaven dangling in front of me. 457642[/snapback] See that's kind of the point our predecessors have based morality on religious choices. It's easy to say that we don't kill people because it's wrong but it all leads back to religion when you determine why it's wrong. Athiests must base their morality on a religious background or else they become the most dangerous people in the world on the reverse side they could be the most easily pushed around also. If you steal from an atheist how can they say what you did was wrong if they don't believe in some sort of religion? To me Heaven is not a carrot I'm gonna make the most of what I have on this Earth that I can if there's something after that then great, but it's not gonna kill me if there isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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