korndawg Posted January 3, 2006 Report Share Posted January 3, 2006 I'm just wondering if anyone has tried them, how they compare to stock, and also how they compare to some of the +2 +1 setups out there like the Sand Dragon wideload package, or the JD perfomance A-arms. Laeger is saying that you can use them with the stock shocks, which is something I have yet to see with any other extended a-arms, but these also aren't 1 forward. Also, since you can use them with the stock shocks, would it be safe to assume that you can set them up to run the YFZ 450 shocks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanddragon2004 Posted January 3, 2006 Report Share Posted January 3, 2006 you can run stock shocks with any extended a arm package, the shock mount is not typically moved on extended travel a arms, unless you go with Long Travel, or like our mid travel arms built for yfz450 shocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianEb Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 I would bite the bullet and get some triple rate or quad rate shocks for your shee. It is a night and day difference Most +1 forward +2 out arms will do the banshee justice. Just like I'm going to have to save my money for a -2 swing arm. I was going to keep my stock rear shock and have it revalved. I'm going to have to bite the bullet also and get a dual rate Elka shock for the rear total price around $1500. oh well keep saving. To bad these companies are not like "Best Buy, CC, Art Van, ect. with No Down payments, No Interest, No monthly untill 2007. That would be cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korndawg Posted January 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Just like I'm going to have to save my money for a -2 swing arm. What kind of swingarm are you running now? I've got a buddy who is running a -2 Lonestar swingarm, and is looking to get rid of it, and get a stock length swingarm that uses the round housing. Let me know, and we might be able to work out some kind of a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 you can run stock shocks with any extended a arm package, the shock mount is not typically moved on extended travel a arms, unless you go with Long Travel, or like our mid travel arms built for yfz450 shocks. 454682[/snapback] Run stock shocks with any extended arm package? I'd buy that if ofcoarse you don't have a problem with plowing dirt with your frame. More of your brilliant BS! Shane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 I'm just wondering if anyone has tried them, how they compare to stock, and also how they compare to some of the +2 +1 setups out there like the Sand Dragon wideload package, or the JD perfomance A-arms. Laeger is saying that you can use them with the stock shocks, which is something I have yet to see with any other extended a-arms, but these also aren't 1 forward. Also, since you can use them with the stock shocks, would it be safe to assume that you can set them up to run the YFZ 450 shocks? 454648[/snapback] Mark Laeger's is hands down he bests arm builder in the world. He taught Doug Roll and pretty much anyone else that is a player is this business. They are a bit more expensive than most on the market but I wouldn't run anything but. Shane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCT Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Run stock shocks with any extended arm package? I'd buy that if ofcoarse you don't have a problem with plowing dirt with your frame. More of your brilliant BS! Shane 463518[/snapback] Leager, Roll, Fireball, Janssen racing, all build top quality products. If you are just running the +2 +1 setup, keep in mind the +1 in forward will transfer more weight to the rear of the bike . This shane cat thinks he is the suspension god, news flash, the frame wont drag because its the same pivot angles and pivot lengths, only the motion ratio is diff, there for the stock shocks will just be a bit soft on the longer A arm, if you frame hits the dirt its only because it hits the dirt before you put the new arms on. Granted the stock shocks are not ideal or even a good choice but will get you buy untill you can afford the right ones. Also you can use the YFZ shocks, and there adjustable comp will help out the soft issues,then you could put a stiffer spring on them and have the system complete and in good functioning order for the +2 arms. Shane, just because your buddies with Leager doesnt mean you know as much as leager, get off your high horse and open your closed mind. I trust my life to Fireball racing Products with what some call the worlds fastest quad, I go through the whoops on Olds hill at glamis at over 100mph with over 500 horsepower between my legs, And it just keeps suckin up those whoops. No one with big horsepower is running Leager arms! WHY? I run fox float shocks Fireball +3 +1 long travel YFZ arms on our Turbo Nitrous Hayabusa powered quad. I say you need to put an end to your false leading BS and talk facts, not your personal opinion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 PCT, I don't know where you get that I think of myself as a suspension God or on a high horse. You base this on reading only one of my posts? In fact if you've read other posts i've made I stated the contrary. Everyone here on HQ that knows or has dealt with me will tell you that i'm normally a pretty humble person. You agree with Sanddragon on stock shocks and extended arms not being a problem? You yourself stated that they will be soft. What would happen if you removed the springs all together? The front of the quad would sit on the ground. So, if you run stock shocks and extended arms and do any jumping at all it is going to bottom out and/or dive hard when turning. Thats just simple old fashions common sense. It doesn't take a "high horse rider" or a "Suspension God" to figure that out. To me it is dangerous to tell someone otherwise. I never said that there weren't others out there that make a good product. Joel Janssen has a great arm for the money. Doug Roll learned from Mark so ofcoarse his stuff is great. All i'm saying is Mark Laeger is absolutely the best! Truthfully, I have no idea why you have not seen anyone running Laeger's arms in the dunes. It could be because Mark doesn't sell chrome arms and his colors are limited. Now a question for you, tell me why it was that even thought Mark never gave any of his product for free, almost every pro rider ran his stuff prior to the factories coming back to the sport? On the flip side, avoid American Star and Burgard products at all cost! It was wrong of me to attack Sanddragon in the manner I did. So for that I apoligize to him. Respectfully, Shane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 I'm just wondering if anyone has tried them, how they compare to stock, and also how they compare to some of the +2 +1 setups out there like the Sand Dragon wideload package, or the JD perfomance A-arms. Laeger is saying that you can use them with the stock shocks, which is something I have yet to see with any other extended a-arms, but these also aren't 1 forward. Also, since you can use them with the stock shocks, would it be safe to assume that you can set them up to run the YFZ 450 shocks? 454648[/snapback] Laeger's is proud to present a new product line specifically designed for the Dunes. Laeger's DuneEdition a-arms are designed for the sand dunes and recreational riding. These +2" a-arms add stability and allow for better handling without the need for longer shocks, and of course they come with our famous Laeger Ball Joints. This is directly from Leagers site. It says you don't need a longer shock. It doesn't say you can safely run the stock shock. I hope this helps. Shane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCT Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 PCT, I don't know where you get that I think of myself as a suspension God or on a high horse. You base this on reading only one of my posts? In fact if you've read other posts i've made I stated the contrary. Everyone here on HQ that knows or has dealt with me will tell you that i'm normally a pretty humble person. You agree with Sanddragon on stock shocks and extended arms not being a problem? You yourself stated that they will be soft. What would happen if you removed the springs all together? The front of the quad would sit on the ground. So, if you run stock shocks and extended arms and do any jumping at all it is going to bottom out and/or dive hard when turning. Thats just simple old fashions common sense. It doesn't take a "high horse rider" or a "Suspension God" to figure that out. To me it is dangerous to tell someone otherwise. I never said that there weren't others out there that make a good product. Joel Janssen has a great arm for the money. Doug Roll learned from Mark so ofcoarse his stuff is great. All i'm saying is Mark Laeger is absolutely the best! Truthfully, I have no idea why you have not seen anyone running Laeger's arms in the dunes. It could be because Mark doesn't sell chrome arms and his colors are limited. Now a question for you, tell me why it was that even thought Mark never gave any of his product for free, almost every pro rider ran his stuff prior to the factories coming back to the sport? On the flip side, avoid American Star and Burgard products at all cost! It was wrong of me to attack Sanddragon in the manner I did. So for that I apoligize to him. Respectfully, Shane 464631[/snapback] If you remove the spring and the bike sits on the ground I would say the shock is to short for the application and bad choice to run, That would make a scetchy situation and a dangerous one.I would never say that a shock would work if the bike wouldnt sit on the bottoming cones and frame not lay on the ground, or pan as we call it. Shane, thank you for the Humble reply with more fact less personal opinion. Good job! PS, I think Leager is great, But not hands down the best, or I would have his front arms on my turbo busa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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