camatv Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 holy cow what a crazy post!! here are my opinions... no~one builder does the "best" port in the world.. the ps drags if you got something fast yea right get it out on the dunes a prove it that way. only big hitters and DEEP pockets are going to win that race.. porting is WAY to overrated.. but so are a lot of things in the good ole banshee world.. you can have a sweet port but if everything else on t he bike is mis matched badly tuned or its just a turd to begin with that will make a lot of bikes really slow hell even your WEIGHT has a HUGE factor in that.. your riding skills your desire to win.. dragging brakes is one of the worst.. howmany people here have ever checked to make sure their brakes are not dragging? or the axle bearings are bad and dragging? there are soooo many factors in making a fast bike fast that most people just dont get it.. i have been holding my own out on the dunes and i am self taught ( and a lot of help along the way from a lot of reading and willingness to try different things) if you really want to go fast just throw money at it nos 20 mill turbo w nitro beat that ok? hell 4 stroke 3 wheeler w full comp control and 3 stage nitros.. beat that? if you are to the point that you need portwork people will need to know what you want in t he bike's performance, what you already have, and what you plan to do.. i see motors as a package to get to this hp and tq you need this.. NOT just portwork the question thats not asked very often is how fast do i want to go how do i ride the bike how serious am i really.. the cubs are a great alternative to really any porting.. they do have a more of a drag oriented port in them already though but can make tremendious power all over .. the 421 cub is a really excellent motor.. and is my personal favorite motor for a banshee anymore mx track drags they can be set up to stomp some butt.. if you like this motor (passion) to this one (fast) please be a little more specific.... whay do you like that one better? did you keep everything the same except the cylinders? a TRUE comparison would be to take a good running motor and get different cylinders like a set of "drag ported 350cc (65mm bore) cylinders from different porters and run them in the same frame, suspension, pipe, carb ignition same rider and see what the differences were.. i build all my own motors after sending my cylinders in one time to ct and getting back nothing but an empty pocket i decided to teach myslef how to port after about 10 years now i feel i know enough to get any banshee to run really good and be very reliable.. reliability HA HA i have heard this before.. my neighbor used to ask me why i had to rebuild my bikes so often it old him because i RIDE THEM.. his banshee was bone stock and had about 60 hors on it.. he couldnt understand why my bikes needed rings and pistons often ( every 1 1/2 half years) i told him i run about 10 cgallons of gas a weekend and thats ALL dragracing. its easy to get a banshee reliable but there is a long list of thigns that need to be changed in the motor as a whole not just a overwide exhaust port i have seen bad port eat rings a live.. and be actually very very small width.. from what i have seen fast racing bikes run good, and cairo's run great i have had the most problems beating those guys. but they were not ported only bikes either.. ( see package thing again!) passion's trinity's ct's esr sandtrix's every builder you can think of has had good running bikes.. you just cannot narrow it down to this one guy is the best! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camatv Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 oh and when is this banshee hq ride day at little saraha in oklahoma?? i wold love to run that meet some people from this site that maybe dosen't hang out at planetsand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 oh and when is this banshee hq ride day at little saraha in oklahoma?? i wold love to run that meet some people from this site that maybe dosen't hang out at planetsand? Last weekend in March, I believe...29th through April Fools day... http://www.bansheehq.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=68766 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majicmike Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 camatv Thats what I always try to tell people. A dyno is a tool and should be treated like it. You ever line up a craftsman socket and a snap-on I think the craftsman is faster LOL to me thats what people fight over. My motor may make 130hp but if you can not get it to hook,transfer, or move the fat ass on the bike i.e. (me) then what good is the 130hp. also if that motor makes 130hp @8000rpm and 70ftlbs of tq @ 6500 rpm then you have very small power band to work with. Also I maybe a better porter than you but you may be a better tunner than me you win every time hands down. Builder wars will go on as long as this sport, The most Important part about a builder is customer service and his willingness to make things right if something goes wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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