Big Blue Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 I got my cub setup from Dan, no complaints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolguyson Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 basing your decision on who to build your motor off of price is foolish. Same for as how soon it arrives. Dan is one of 3 people that i consider in this industry that actually knows HOW a 2-stroke works and how to make them run. Even if Dan were a couple hundred dollars more it would be worth it to know an ethical man guy put it together that knows what he is doing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odaen Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 basing your decision on who to build your motor off of price is foolish. Same for as how soon it arrives. Dan is one of 3 people that i consider in this industry that actually knows HOW a 2-stroke works and how to make them run. Even if Dan were a couple hundred dollars more it would be worth it to know an ethical man guy put it together that knows what he is doing 450868[/snapback] damn, that was well put. dunno if I agree with the 3 people part, but a good post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FasterThanU90 Posted December 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 i tried calling patriot 3 times and no answer what is this guy runnin this out of his garage they can at least answer the phone i got a quote from jim at passion and im gonna call back jeff at fast 2 day i will try callin patriot 1 more time but if no answer then im going elswere and on how money goes i dont have tons of it like sum lucky bastards and im lookin 2 spend quite a bit i kno a good job will cost a good amount of money but ive heard good things about all three of these companys and how time goes im not really pressed for time i want them 2 do a good thorough job like i would do myself which i am considering doing but cant really get my hands on a good set of tools i dunno what im gonna do i just wanna get it done because this is cutting into my riding time and we cant have that now can we Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUSH THE THROTTLE Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 (edited) ^^^^^Buy a period or 2 while you're at it. I about suffocated reading that. Edited December 22, 2005 by PUSH THE THROTTLE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FasterThanU90 Posted December 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 hahaaa i hate periods chiks get 2 bitchy i just tried callin patriot and again no answer plus i left them 2 previous messages with my phone number Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUSH THE THROTTLE Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 hahaaa i hate periods chiks get 2 bitchy i just tried callin patriot and again no answer plus i left them 2 previous messages with my phone number 450887[/snapback] Maybe they have a week or two off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odaen Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 i tried calling patriot 3 times and no answer what is this guy runnin this out of his garage they can at least answer the phone i got a quote from jim at passion and im gonna call back jeff at fast 2 day i will try callin patriot 1 more time but if no answer then im going elswere and on how money goes i dont have tons of it like sum lucky bastards and im lookin 2 spend quite a bit i kno a good job will cost a good amount of money but ive heard good things about all three of these companys and how time goes im not really pressed for time i want them 2 do a good thorough job like i would do myself which i am considering doing but cant really get my hands on a good set of tools i dunno what im gonna do i just wanna get it done because this is cutting into my riding time and we cant have that now can we 450883[/snapback] leave him a message, he'll return your call. these guys aren't like walmart where you're always gonna be able to talk to them whenever you want, cause they are busy working on other customers' bikes. I know Cameron always has a shop full of bikes, no matter what season it is. Cameron@Redline builds my motors, might wanna think about giving him a call. 541.367.2453 I guarantee it won't be a waste of time. He's got a sorta website that hasn't been updated in like 35 years, but it's www.redline-racing.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolguyson Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 Dan is sick right now for the past 4 days and wont be back into the shop until tomorrow. Maybe monday. Either way dan doesnt answer his phone because he always calls his customers back. he is a one man show. Guess it keeps his quality up and his quantity down. If you are just looking for somebody to answer the phone when you call id recommend K&T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketboy Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 i have heard really good things about patriot in the past ,but when you call jim smart at passion racing ,yo u will get Jim or he will call and/or pM you right back ,not knocking patriot but ,service is important as hell in this business ,it will literally make or break a builder .in the future will dan ansewer the phone regarding your motor problems /setup questions after he has taken your money ? if he is that busy ,cant he afford a sexertary who can atleast take your name and number and get your concerns ansewered in a timely manner ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolguyson Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 It is all personal opinion. Ive dealt with a lot of builders. They all have their times when they dont return calls or dont answer the phone. Heck Rudy Kurtz doesnt even make a phone call or answer a phone unless its a tuesday and thursday. But it doesnt take away the fact that when he does answer the phone he has great customer service. He is just that busy. Kurtz has been doing business since the 80's and if he felt it really mattered to have a secretary answer his calls then he'd have gotten one. Same with patriot. btw...a secretary wont be able to help you jet a bike...lol ok ok enough cheerleading by me...it isnt my style. Like i said, if you want a guy to answer the phone and still get a great motor K&T is the way to go. They are also the leading supplier of cubs right next to McCoys performance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odaen Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 secretaries throw a huge ass wrench in the works. if it isn't your wife, you end up banging them and going through a divorce with your actual wife, in which she gets half of your shop. if the secretary is your wife, it defeats the purpose of working at something that's your hobby, because let's face it, hobbies are ways of avoiding the wife at home. so, i'd be somewhat nervous about a builder that had a secretary, myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 not taking away from patriot but there are several ppl i would not hesitate to call..FAST, K&T, and Redline have always answered the phone when i called..i personally like to talk to someone, but hey thats me. in the past i tried to contact patriot. i called and left 2 voicemails a couple days apart..no response tho those..so then i emailed..i got a reply about a week later..again, not saying that they arent good builders its just that MOST ppl will want to talk to someone..i have talked to jeff @ FAST twice in the past 2 days..he told me hes so busy taking part orders that hes been out porting cylinders at night..he is also a one man show who answers the phone and gets the job done with no complaints..and dont think jeff doesnt have a lot of work..right now alone he has more motors from ppl on the HQ alone than u have fingers and toes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FasterThanU90 Posted December 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 i have heard really good things about patriot in the past ,but when you call jim smart at passion racing ,yo u will get Jim or he will call and/or pM you right back ,not knocking patriot but ,service is important as hell in this business ,it will literally make or break a builder .in the future will dan ansewer the phone regarding your motor problems /setup questions after he has taken your money ? if he is that busy ,cant he afford a sexertary who can atleast take your name and number and get your concerns ansewered in a timely manner ? 450916[/snapback] exactly service is important as hell good service means good quality ive talked 2 jim and jeff and they anwered my ques but i still didnt finish talkin to jeff if u read this ill try callin u tommorow my boss was up my ass today and had no time hopefully il talk to u tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89Steeda Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 Dan has always returned my calls. Works on my bikes when I see him at the dunes. Can't ask for more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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