odaen Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 I bought some streamline braded brake lines, and I can't bleed the damn brakes. I did like it said and left the lower lines off and pumped the shit out of the brakes, but no fluid ever comes out. The resevoir is full. I submerged the end in the brake fluid container so it could suck air when I let the brake lever out, doesn't make a difference. Are there any tricks to it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigboybanshee Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 I was having the same problem and I needed one of those brake bleeder vacuums (don't think that's the "real" term for it, lol ). Worked great, you can pick them up at Autozone I went through almost a full bottle of brake fluid and about an hour and a half before I broke down and got the vacuum; don't feel bad, I was there too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggun6ss Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 I had the same problem. I just tied in the brake lines to the callipers at the wheels and opened up the bleeds. It took forever but it finally started to come out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smkmupbanshee Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 the vaccum pump is your best bet to get them done quick. It took me about an hour to do my rear brake line on my +8 swingarm. You'll be pumping for awhile, but they will work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawarriorman Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 Yeah, I've had problems before when I took the lines off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 get a mity vac. you can get them at o reillys..takes me about 10 mins to bleed both lines with one of them. you fill rezzie up and put the mity vac over the bleeder end on the caliper. start pumpin and the mity vac sucks down the fluid. be sure to keep the rezzie full..once u think u have enough in to fill the lines take off mity vac and bleed likeu normally would. usually only takes a few mins and then ull be done. i will never bleed lines again without a mity vac..i think i paid 30 bucks for mine.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eehsnab2 Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 I had the same problem when I put mine on... Here's kinda of backwoods trick that works pretty good if your too lazy to run up to the parts store to get a mityvac... Take off the rezzie lid and put a rubber glove over it. zip tie it to make a good seal. Next cut the half the finger off the glove and fill it up with compressed air(this will put pressure on the fluid to force it down the line as you pump the lever). Just bleed as usual and make sure to keep an eye out that the fluid doesnt suck any air. Its best to have a buddy help with the process, you'll need an extra hand . Worked for me... Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odaen Posted December 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 was thinking about doing something along those lines.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justintoxicated Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 (edited) I told you it would be FUN! Pumping the bakes and then opening and closing the nozzel (on the caliper) will work, Vacume pump will save you time though... If you get air in the resevor where the outlet is it can be a bitch to get the fluid going, the vacume pump will suck the air that is stuck right there through the lines for sure. With the Rez cover off I found if you pump it a few times then release the pressure on the valve with the brake lever push in, close valve and pump again... Edited December 16, 2005 by Justintoxicated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CadillacBanshee Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 Just get one of your friends to suck on one line at a time while you pump, Vacuum my ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireman-hott Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 I second the mity vac. Only bleed them once when putting on the +2+1 a-arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton eyed Joe Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 I never had a problem bleeding my front brakes until I swapped out to braided stainless lines. I can't remember how I eventually got them to bleed, but holyshit...was it ever a pain in the ass. Next time I will have a Mighty Vac for the job. I went through 2 pints of fuckin DOT3 before it got it to work. They are still just a hair spongy, but for now I'm leaving it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 I never had a problem bleeding my front brakes until I swapped out to braided stainless lines. I can't remember how I eventually got them to bleed, but holyshit...was it ever a pain in the ass. Next time I will have a Mighty Vac for the job.I went through 2 pints of fuckin DOT3 before it got it to work. They are still just a hair spongy, but for now I'm leaving it. 449073[/snapback] better not skimp on the brakes for the f4i Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat Posted December 18, 2005 Report Share Posted December 18, 2005 ok guys I got this perfect brake bleedin' all figured out. For years I recommended the MityVac, but not anymore. First of all, the Mityvac brand sucks, oh it does the job, but it was designed by a moron. The little cup they supply you with is so damn small that as soon as you get the fluid flowin' into the bottle, the fucker is full and you have to stop to empty the cup. While thats not a TOO big of a problem, it does suck balls when you have two calipers to bleed and half of your time is spent emptying the tiny cup on the mityvac, not to mention all the brake fluid you spill on your hands from draining the cup 6 times in 6 minutes. The second problem Iv always had was... the cup wont stand by itself. You can't put the cup on the ground, pump the mityvac and keep the ressy full at the same time, because as soon as you move to fill the brake ressy..... the fuckin tiny holding cup tips over and you got DOT4 all over the garage floor, plus the fluid you just spilled on your front fender because you lunged for the tipping mityvac cup . So you gotta make a cup holder of some sorts and that helps, but why the mityvac cup doesnt come with a stable base is beyond me . And the third problem iv had with my Mityvac is the little plastic peice thats designed to go over the bleeder valve wears out. If you push the plastic peice onto the bleeder too much, to many times, it will start to leak. And when it starts to leak, it sucks in air and you'll never get the bubbles to stop coming out of the bleeder hose. Iv replaced my plastic bleeder valve piece twice and they both leak, so now I dont even use em anymore, I put the clear hose directly on the bleeder valve. So.... with all the crap you gotta deal with the MityVac, I could never get a good bleed with mine. Oh the brakes worked and worked good, but not "FACTORY' good. Don't deny it, we've all been there with the no-so-perfectly bleed brakes. Ok, so now that im done bashin' the MityShit, let me tell yas what I found that works. Iv always wanted a pressurized brake fluid pump, one that you hook up to your air compressor. They pump the fluid up from the bleeder to the ressy, instead of sucking it down. Bitch is, they're expensive. Expensive for me anyways. About $100 bucks on Ebay. So here's what ya do. In Pennsylvania we have an auto parts store called NAPA. NAPA sells a gallon can of brake fluid with a little pump on the cap. The little pump looks just like the pumps on Coleman stoves or lanterns. There's a hose on the pump\cap. Hook up the hose to the bleeder valve and take off your ressy cover. Pump some fluid in until it comes out of the ressy. I did this method for the first time this past summer, I did it on my Rz350 after I bled em with the MityCrap and wasnt satisfied with the feel. The can-pump worked perfectly. The brakes work perfect and I mean PERRRRRRFECT. Funny little story here, I bled my RZ's brakes while working the nightshift at my job. I was the only guy in the plant and it was 2 in the morning so I decided to bleed my brakes with the NAPA pump-can we have at work. I took the ressy cover off my brake ressy and attached the pump's hose to the bleeder, cracked open the bleeder and gave the gallon can about 5 good pumps, I could see the brake fluid flowing into the caliper and I was jammin'. So I give a few more pumps and concentrate on the caliper\bleeder area. But I could hear a hissing noise. So I look up at my brake ressy and the fucking brake fluid is shooting up and out of the ressy in a pefect squirtgun stream about 5 feet higher than the bike. I pulled the pump off the bleeder and that instantly stopped the flow into the caliper, but damnit I had brake fluid all over the damn place, all over the seat of the bike, all over the shop. I just cant get a break when dealin' with brake fluid, I always seem to make a mess . Before I bought my MityJunk, I would always bleed em "lung style". yep, suckin on the bleeder hose will draw the fluid down empty brake lines. Make sure you have a clear hose and keep it kinda long so you can see the brake fluid coming. You'll still have to bleed the brakes the old school way of pumpin the lever, but atleast you can get the brake fluid down the lines without having to buy anything but some clear aquarium hose. ps brake fluid makes your lips numb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odaen Posted December 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2005 hmm....seems like a nice alternative. I stopped at Schucks auto supply on the way home and they had a brake bleeding kit for 7.50. The little cup has a magnet attached so you don't have to hold it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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