RNBRAD Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Those are the Janssen boots, they run about 35-40 for the set. I wouldn't say they are completely water proof if they get totally submerged. They have stayed clean for me riding the dunes. My heims use to grind with grit from sand, now they remain clean and smooth operating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smkmupbanshee Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 (edited) over a month? for spindles? he talked to me about them last week. I told him i would send him another spindle. We did make a mix up. We have sold so many of those front end kits that we recieved 1 box of spindles and they where some that where 2 lefts together and 2 rights. we didnt realize till after the fact. O and the Arms shipped in about 7-10 days. Edited December 7, 2005 by smkmupbanshee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo52 Posted December 8, 2005 Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 I would stay away from heims if your a trail rider. They wont take the elements, now with the boots you might get by but they also will give you a harsher ride and more noise compared to a ball joint. Now with A arms, I would hope all manufactures TIG weld and heat treat their chromoly that is the only way to do it. When you weld chromoly you upset the atoms, and heat treating (when done properly) relaxes them helping to stop stress cracks from forming, And NHRA/IHRA both require chromoly cages and frames to be TIG welded so there must be a reason for it. Lastly check out Herrmann racing A arms, they have heavy duty ball joints, look super strong, and a pretty cheap compared to other manufactures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azsandrat Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 Hey guys have you ever taken a look at the off road race trucks,long travel buggys etc. They all use heims. Thats because they have more movement,stronger and can be used in a variety of uses. If you have cheap heims they will wear fast thats no lie. Its like chains. You get a cheap one its gonna let you down.Your chains,rear axle bearings and those of you who run TM Design chain guides will recieve more abuse from the roost from your front tires than the front end of the arms will any day. I have tons of call reguarding people with froze up ball joints. The are made in china and are soft as nerf. For those who say heims don't work good in sand had cheap ones. ALL sand cars are totally heim suspended even the off road trucks are using a sperical ball or heim. Helicopters are full of heims and they are running in the sand right now in the Middle East. Its like everything else. Theres good and crap. I use aircraft grade only. I can get some for 3.50 each and the are junk. I use the 20.00 each kind that last. If you don't take care of your chain how long will it last??????? Gary QUICKSAND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUSH THE THROTTLE Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 As I said before I ride mud mud and more mud then dirt and haven't had any problems with my Quicksand heims. Now If I had my swinger I'd be set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azsandrat Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 As for heat treating....Its called stress relieving. This is done at the weld zones only. If you heat treat 4130 it becomes too brittle and will snap. Rolls are not heat treated as I have a bent set on the wll. Everyone wants bullet proof a arms but is your frame tabs that strong?? I've welded a bunch back on for customers. Roll doesn't have a guarantee with them. They are .065 wall and thats the only way doug makes them. Just pick the right a arms for your style of riding. I guarantee you will not bend a set of a arms made for either .095 or .120 4130. You will damage your frame. Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawarriorman Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 Hey guys have you ever taken a look at the off road race trucks,long travel buggys etc. They all use heims. Thats because they have more movement,stronger and can be used in a variety of uses. If you have cheap heims they will wear fast thats no lie. Its like chains. You get a cheap one its gonna let you down.Your chains,rear axle bearings and those of you who run TM Design chain guides will recieve more abuse from the roost from your front tires than the front end of the arms will any day. I have tons of call reguarding people with froze up ball joints. The are made in china and are soft as nerf. For those who say heims don't work good in sand had cheap ones. ALL sand cars are totally heim suspended even the off road trucks are using a sperical ball or heim. Helicopters are full of heims and they are running in the sand right now in the Middle East. Its like everything else. Theres good and crap. I use aircraft grade only. I can get some for 3.50 each and the are junk. I use the 20.00 each kind that last. If you don't take care of your chain how long will it last??????? Gary QUICKSAND 446672[/snapback] Very true. Im sure the quality ones will last much longer. But its not all sand out here, its clay. And clay particles are much smaller than sand. Clay will wear out the heims much faster than sand will simply because it can get down in the heim. If its dry, its a fine dust (goes right through a K&N filter), and if its wet, its soupy water. Now seeing that there are boots out there has made me reconsider them, but in that case I don't want a boot thats not sealing, and just holding junk in there. Maybe filling it with grease. All Im saying, is we all aren'tl out in the desert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanddragon2004 Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 As for heat treating....Its called stress relieving. This is done at the weld zones only. If you heat treat 4130 it becomes too brittle and will snap. Rolls are not heat treated as I have a bent set on the wll. Everyone wants bullet proof a arms but is your frame tabs that strong?? I've welded a bunch back on for customers. Roll doesn't have a guarantee with them. They are .065 wall and thats the only way doug makes them. Just pick the right a arms for your style of riding. I guarantee you will not bend a set of a arms made for either .095 or .120 4130. You will damage your frame.Gary 446675[/snapback] Would have to agree with Gary on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
differentstrokes Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 I've never had any trouble out of my heims and I'm here in alabama with clay, sand, and all kinds of moisture. Everytime I wash mine I spray wd-40 on them to displace the moisture. Seems like ball joints lock up really quick if the boots tear and you don't notice right away, just my experience but everyone is different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squish Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 Hey guys have you ever taken a look at the off road race trucks,long travel buggys etc. They all use heims. Thats because they have more movement,stronger and can be used in a variety of uses. If you have cheap heims they will wear fast thats no lie. Its like chains. You get a cheap one its gonna let you down.Your chains,rear axle bearings and those of you who run TM Design chain guides will recieve more abuse from the roost from your front tires than the front end of the arms will any day. I have tons of call reguarding people with froze up ball joints. The are made in china and are soft as nerf. For those who say heims don't work good in sand had cheap ones. ALL sand cars are totally heim suspended even the off road trucks are using a sperical ball or heim. Helicopters are full of heims and they are running in the sand right now in the Middle East. Its like everything else. Theres good and crap. I use aircraft grade only. I can get some for 3.50 each and the are junk. I use the 20.00 each kind that last. If you don't take care of your chain how long will it last??????? Gary QUICKSAND 446672[/snapback] I race harescrambles once a month very close to gncc racing. The abuse my arms receive in one race is the same most rec. riders arms see in two years. I have the original heims that gary sent with the arms. Two years old. Oh and the two actuators on each of the space shuttle main engines that gimble them use heims not ball joints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whyteboy Posted December 25, 2005 Report Share Posted December 25, 2005 i just got custom +2+1 arms with hiems on the spindles....... so friggen awesome the handling is. onelovesustoms in santee CA. a little pricey but worth every penny. ALL ABOUT THE HEIMS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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