TUSK VS. FZR1000 FIBERS

[RNBRAD]

I think the fiber material is more important than any width you may gain with the clutch plates. My personal opinion is the barnett kevlar clutch plates I had previously are crap. They muddied up my tranny oil and when I did my rebuild I was quite surprised to find that the square pads were worn smooth. They had about 4 hours of riding on them and they were almost gone. My clutch was never slipping that I could tell, so I will be able to tell how much better these fibers are for longevity v/s the kevlar and oem. My oem plates had less wear than the barnett's with about 40 hrs of run time.

[rocketboy]

yeah, ive heard those barnett kevlars on a she just turn into tranny sludge over time,sucks cause theyre pretty pricey,my opinion is that the springs are more the solution to clutch slipping problems on modifed banshees ,gotta run all 6 HD springs

Edited December 2, 2005 by rocketboy

[blueshee03]

They are aftermarket fj600 fibers, barnett steels, and barnett steels but not the ones they normally sell for Banshees! They are some i have found to hold up better! Hope this helps the confusion....

I beleive they also fit some years of the fzr 's too.

We tried lots of other brands and these are the only ones we found that held up the best without braking and without fading !!

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so basically if its aftermarket fj600 clutch fibers they are fibers that are cork based with aluminum particles embedded in them to increase wear life and heat resistance.i used to run yamaha maxum street bikes and that is the fibers they used.also basically the same as the numerous other yamaha power bikes including the r6.

 

they sound like the aftermarket clutches EBC makes and they sell for around 70.00 bucks.these were some very good clutches to stand up to the power and torque these bikes had.just some info from a longtime yamaha rider.

 

i did a little research and the fj600 used the same clutch as these applications

: Yamaha FZX700 S/SC/T/TC 86-87, Yamaha FJ600 L/LC/N/NC 84-85, Yamaha FZ600 S/SC/T/TC/UC/U 86-88, Yamaha YZF600 R R6 99-02, Yamaha YZF600 RRR R6 03-04, Yamaha XJ600 SD/SDC/SE/SEC/SF/SFC/SG/SGC/ SH/SHC/SJ/SJC/SK/SKC SECA II 92-98, Yamaha YX600 S/SC/T/TC/U/UC/W/WC/A/AC 86-90, Yamaha XJ650 G/H/J/K Maxim 80-83, Yamaha XJ650 LH Midnight 81, Yamaha XJ650 LJ/LK Seca Turbo 82-83, Yamaha XJ650 RJ Seca 82, Yamaha XJ700 N/NC/S/SC Maxim 85-86, Yamaha XJ700 XN/XNC/XS/XSC Maxim 85-86, Yamaha FZ750 N 85, Yamaha FZ750 S/SC 86, Yamaha XJ750 J/K/MK Maxim 82-83, Yamaha XJ750 RH/RJ/RK Seca 81-83, Yamaha TDM850 D/DC/E/EC 92-93, Yamaha XJ900 RK Seca 83

[odaen]

Sounds like a good research project for you...especially since you seem to be the only one left that's doubting what people are telling you....you ask, they answer, you still don't want to believe...find out for yourself!

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man, i don't think rocketboy started this thread off trying start a pissing match with FASTOYS. I still don't think that's the motivation here. He just didn't understand why everyone toted the FZR clutch when according to his calipers and observations, the cheapo tusk was ths same thing.

 

I think that he was just giving everyone some info that he'd discovered, in the hopes of saving people some money. If he's wrong, fuckit. His heart is in the right place. My ears are open when people recommend cost savings here and there.

 

Here's a little foreshadowing. I'm planning on doing a dyno run with a stock vs nology coil. If I find out the stock coil puts out the same HP that the nology does, should I just keep my mouth shut and let everyone go out and spend $150 on an aftermarket coil, or share it with my comrades? I already know that if the coils performed identically though, all I'd hear all day long is "that's BS, it made a huge difference on my bike". So, I guess, why should I share any info, it all turns into pissing matches, it seems.

[blueshee03]

sorry if i offended anyone ,i'm not trying for a pissing match here.everyone must realize that the thickness and width don't mean everything.you can have thin narrow fibers that grip and hold up better than thick wide ones and also the other way around.the material that they are made from is just as important if not more important.i know from my experience with being on bikes almost everyone of them yamahas,that the street bike clutches are alot stronger and more reliable than the banshee clutches they sell.if fast uses fj600 fibers and people that buy them and swear by them,then i guess fast and i agree that the street bike fibers are the best way to go when replacing clutch if you want a clutch that holds up.again i did'nt mean to offend anyone just trying to shed a little light on the subject in question.

[locogato11283]

ive run the following on stock stroke, stock port banshee and torn them all up..ebc, stock, barnett..they were all junk and oil looked like shit when i changed it..running FAST clutch setup on 4mm cub motor and havent burned it up yet. plus the oil still looks good when i change it..

 

my bro bought one of them fancy ass barnett pieces of shit for his 450 and burnt it up within about 3 hours of riding. ordered a tusk and its been in there for months with no issues..stay away from barnett, they dont warranty their products for shit..when i called them about it they blamed it on me. said i used wrong oil, clutch was not adjusted properly or i installed wrong. yea right. funny the tusk installed the same, same oil, same adjustment. works fine..barnett is shit.

 

ok carry on

[FASTOYS]

Hey loco, try not to hold back next time. LOL

[blueshee03]

barnett is not the best clutch made i agree .who manufactures these fast clutches?what is the fibers composed of?not being smart or anything but just would like to know a little more about the product.loco you think if i bought one of the fast clutches i could take my lockup out and run the dirt drags without having it slip,smoke,rip the fibers off,muddy up the gearlube or anything?that lockup is extra weight i could get rid of.

[rocketboy]

rider.

 

      i did a little research and the fj600 used the same clutch as these applications

              : Yamaha FZX700 S/SC/T/TC 86-87, Yamaha FJ600 L/LC/N/NC 84-85, Yamaha FZ600 S/SC/T/TC/UC/U 86-88, Yamaha YZF600 R R6 99-02, Yamaha YZF600 RRR R6 03-04, Yamaha XJ600 SD/SDC/SE/SEC/SF/SFC/SG/SGC/ SH/SHC/SJ/SJC/SK/SKC SECA II 92-98, Yamaha YX600 S/SC/T/TC/U/UC/W/WC/A/AC 86-90, Yamaha XJ650 G/H/J/K Maxim 80-83, Yamaha XJ650 LH Midnight 81, Yamaha XJ650 LJ/LK Seca Turbo 82-83, Yamaha XJ650 RJ Seca 82, Yamaha XJ700 N/NC/S/SC Maxim 85-86, Yamaha XJ700 XN/XNC/XS/XSC Maxim 85-86, Yamaha FZ750 N 85, Yamaha FZ750 S/SC 86, Yamaha XJ750 J/K/MK Maxim 82-83, Yamaha XJ750 RH/RJ/RK Seca 81-83, Yamaha TDM850 D/DC/E/EC 92-93, Yamaha XJ900 RK Seca 83

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what is the yamaha part numbers of that clutch fiber in those bikes ?

[locogato11283]

barnett is not the best clutch made i agree .who manufactures  these fast clutches?what is the fibers composed of?not being smart or anything but just would like to know a little more about the product.loco you think if i bought one of the fast clutches i could take my lockup out and run the dirt drags without having it slip,smoke,rip the fibers off,muddy up the gearlube or anything?that lockup is extra weight i could get rid of.

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hmm good question on manufacturer?? i dont know what to tell u about tryin one without lockup..mine has been in for a long time now with no lockup and ive run it at least 30 passes up the hills, i think about 8 or 10 runs on the dyno, 2 dune trips with plenty of drag racing, and tons of testing and tuning in my field and i have yet to feel it slip. take it for what its worth

[wesw]

 

dontknow my barnett has lasted me over a yr. guess i will have to watch out for it going bad.

[willow2679]

I think it

Edited December 3, 2005 by willow2679