Justintoxicated Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 well technically you could run just a capacitor wih the DC conversion, but it's not going to save you much money if any. It will put more strain on the lights and possible the stator (lights will draw more current with less voltage), and HID's draw more current when starting up than running so you might have to rev the bike to get them to warm up first...HID's don't like to have varying current and voltage so I would go with a battery. If you wanna test it though, it might work and probably will, but I think just running a capacitor might shorten the life of the lights some and cause them to have a harder time starting up, since voltage and power typicaly drop at idle. Even with a high output stator, high output flywheel, and a battery there is still fluctuation in curent and voltage from idle to reving the motor, just not nearly as much. Besides if your going to use a capacitor to help regulate voltage and current why not just get a battery when it's going to work better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallrat Posted November 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 To run HID's on a banshee you will need a battery and a DC conversion. I guess you can sometimes get by with just a capacitor but I tried running a 1.2AH battery this past weekend and it wasn't big enough to get the job done. Hey Justin, Jenn never got back to me. Guess I'll have to send an email to Jeff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justintoxicated Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 (edited) better hurry up dude mine are on the way Just need to run 2 wires to connect them and a ground wire! My total was ummm...See post below for prices Edited November 9, 2005 by Justintoxicated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallrat Posted November 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 I emailed him but still haven't gotten a reply back from him or Jenn. I'll call tomorrow soon as I get out of Jury Duty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justintoxicated Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 I hate jury duty and I have never been I always find a way out of it! So far lucky, but next time I'll probably have to do it. At least the work pays for it though...so do you have to go all the way downtown or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justintoxicated Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 Oops Sorry guys the correct price is $150 each + mounting hardware of your choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallrat Posted November 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 Mine are on the way - got the LAST set for this production run. Any other company and I'd be a little nervous about having the first production run, with Trail Tech I know they'll back it up if there's a problem. Yeah I didn't end up having to be on a jury. My dad and his dad were both cops, so I knew they'd end up dismissing me. The Def. attorney tried to question me about my views of the law since I grew up around law enforcement. He asks me if I make mistakes, if the other people in the room make mistakes, if my dad makes mistakes, etc. Then he says so when your dad puts on his badge that means he can't make mistakes. I told him, this case is for resisting arrest, so pretty much if a cop says you're under arrest and your response isn't "yes sir, I am under arrest" then your butt is there for a reason - no mistake to make. Sucked tho...I ended up being there from 8am-4pm. Blech! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justintoxicated Posted November 12, 2005 Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 that blows, at least you got out though, Yours are on the way, mine are being installed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigvincent Posted November 12, 2005 Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 Are they bigger than the previous TT's or same size? Any pics yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallrat Posted November 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 (edited) The diameter is about the same as the torch lights, but they're a little longer in order to fit the ballast inside. Justin got his in the mail last night, but he's in San Diego for the weekend. Might be installing them on Sunday night. Mine should be here on Tuesday. Edited November 12, 2005 by Wallrat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justintoxicated Posted November 12, 2005 Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 well for the stock location lights they are adjustable up and down as well as side to side, the mount hardware was pretty nice, and there are 2 pivot points for the up/down and side to side. I lit them up and I need to compare these to my Osram sylvania True Aim IR's still. I did notice the 10 deg beam on the expensive IR Halogen is Larger and smoother and more consistant. The MR 16's have a very intense hotspot (for an MR 16 SIZE LIGHT) with aq slightly less bright area around the botspot and spill light off to the side. Even though the MR16 HID's are listed as 13 deg, I think they have a smaller hotspot than the IR bulbs. I'm not saying these are worse then the IR"s just different. It will make comparisons more difficult since just due to reflector design the HID's will throw farther and have a bright spot, especialy far farther distances. I have to admit it would be hard to beat osram sylvania for consistancy as these Bulbs have blown away all other MR16 halogens I have tested in both beam qualiy and brightness. I mean these 50 watt halogen bulbs are easily putting off more than 2 times the light of 35 watt wallmart Halogens with 4x the beam quality..... They deliver a supurb beam which is perfect for riding (looks like a nice huge circle in front of you that is consistantly the same brightness throughout with very little spill light off to the side and no defined hotspot. They work absolutly great on the handlebars. Also note that in the pics I will be taking the halogens will look WAY more yellow, color is NOT an indication of brightness. My particular set of HID's have a bluish tint which will automaticaly make them look more intense... I do feel the new HID's are going to stomp my IR's and use less power in doing so. And the HID's definately have a VERY good beam, but it is different from the IR's and I really did like the way their beam worked. (course I can probably run both sets at the same time with the Hi Output Stator, Flywheel, and Battery conversion but only time will tell) I doubt I will coimpare these to stock lights or even typical MR 16 Halogens, that would be like taking a knife to a gunfight...your talking about lighting a lighter to see in the dark, or lighting a magnesium block on fire to see in the dark! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justintoxicated Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 (edited) Ok I got them hooked up and turned them both on at the same time, Battery was kinda low though from all the messing around prior and One of them shut off while I was trying to aim them. (I think due to low battery cause it turned back on once I shut the other one off) So they are pretty bright Who wants to buy my Ricky Stator Iluminator handlebar lights and some osram 55 watt IR bulbs? Edited November 14, 2005 by Justintoxicated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallrat Posted November 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 (edited) Mine just came today and I thought I'd write up some initial impressions on the quality, packaging, size specs, etc. I won't be able to install them until at least tomorrow evening so hopefully I'll have a better review on Wednesday. FYI I am currently running 35w Torchlights on a handlebar mount configuration. The Eclipse's will bolt directly to the torchlight mounts but you might want to consider some for of isolation from vibration if you don't already have it. Shipping - they arrived very well packaged in about 4 business days. Everything was packed tightly so nothing was going to move around inside and scratch up the aluminum. Contents - 2 Eclipse HID's with 12" wire leads, small bag with assorted lugs and terminals, vibration isolating handlebar mount 'wing' (this is recomended by Trail Tech) and mounting hardware, 2 clear silicone lens covers Quality - What can I say? Top notch. I poured over this set looking for scratches, chips, kinks in the wires, everything. I'm happy to report that both lights were flawless as was the wing! If you see anything in the pictures, its either a reflection or a smudge from my finger while I was positioning these things. The only mark I found was on one of the bolt swivels that you use to adjust the light. The edge had a very small mushed area which looked to be caused by a wrench during assembly. Its underneath the light however and not easily noticeable unless you've got your eye a foot away from it. Once mounted I'm sure I won't be able to see it. Impressions - These things are alot bigger than they seemed at the Sand Sports Super Show. They're really the same size but having them in your hand the first time kinda gives you the impression that these things are gonna blind somebody. I took the picture next to the soda can just to illustrate what kind of size I'm talking about here. For their size and very rugged appearance, they're still quite light. Not having a decent scale handy I couldn't accurately say how light but I would venture that you shouldn't have any problems with them wiggling loose while riding. Especially since they came equiped with stainless allens + nyloc nuts - a nice touch in my opinion. I never understood why some manufacturers put out a quality product and then use cheap hardware. Nice to see that TrailTech used quality parts start to finish. On to the pics: Edited November 14, 2005 by Wallrat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justintoxicated Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 (edited) how much were the lense covers? Are tehse the ones you can leave on while using the lights? The lights get quite warm... Only thing about them I could say need sinprovement is the wire leads are too skinny for my taste, even though these HID's are eficient, from my understanding HID"s like to pull alot of current while warming up, and the wire looks a bit small for the amount of current at startup, But hell they work, so I doubt it's long enough to make much differece. Don't worry those cover might scuff up your lights a bit, at least thats my experience with light covers and sand Edited November 15, 2005 by Justintoxicated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigvincent Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 Who wants to buy my Ricky Stator Iluminator handlebar lights and some osram 55 watt IR bulbs? 436895[/snapback] Got a pic? PM or email me with details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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