Turbobanshee_kid Posted September 24, 2005 Report Share Posted September 24, 2005 Whach one is the faster and better bike and why? Look at each bike specifications thank you 2006 YFZ 450 http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products...97/0/specs.aspx 2006 450R http://powersports.honda.com/atvs/sport/mo...odelId=TRX450R6 THANK YOU MY DAD MITE GET ONE OF THEM!!!!!!!!!!! BUT I WILL KEEP MY BANSHEE!!!! YEAH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenr74 Posted September 24, 2005 Report Share Posted September 24, 2005 You can't tell anything from specs. From what I have seen they are both about the same out of the box. The YFZ is cheaper and easier to mod though. That is just what I have seen from a few bikes but I've heard that from quite a few people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted September 24, 2005 Report Share Posted September 24, 2005 search man...search... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYUK Posted September 24, 2005 Report Share Posted September 24, 2005 the debate over which is better cracks me up.i have a 450r and love it.handles great ,it`s fast enough for what i want it for, wheelies all day.yamaha website they will prefer the yfz, honda website they will love the 450r.the debate is endless.the only thing about the r, stall that fucker hot and you will get a brain anurism kicking it with the f**kin retarded forward kick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheefreestyler Posted September 24, 2005 Report Share Posted September 24, 2005 the debate over which is better cracks me up.i have a 450r and love it.handles great ,it`s fast enough for what i want it for, wheelies all day.yamaha website they will prefer the yfz, honda website they will love the 450r.the debate is endless.the only thing about the r, stall that fucker hot and you will get a brain anurism kicking it with the f**kin retarded forward kick. 418619[/snapback] i rode the r and to me i felt really crammed on it and the handling was pretty touchy. i just sat on the yfz and i can tell ya that i love it more then the r already and i havent even rode the yfz yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldriver Posted September 24, 2005 Report Share Posted September 24, 2005 (edited) well both 450s got major updates for 06, so both are gonna be better, i still prefer the YFZ myself, but suzuki is comming out with a 450 racer that might be better than both,,, so who knows Edited September 24, 2005 by helldriver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbobanshee_kid Posted September 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2005 yeah a heard about that quad suzuki team is going to race it stock, but i bet it will be $8,000 to $10,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endofitall9 Posted September 24, 2005 Report Share Posted September 24, 2005 I can say that a buddy has the R and another buddy has the yfz and R spanks it all day both have same mods (airbox lid removed...lol) The R will beat it by a bike length, even when they switch riders........lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Posted September 24, 2005 Report Share Posted September 24, 2005 YFZ - electric start........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegroup Posted September 24, 2005 Report Share Posted September 24, 2005 ive seen a stock yfz stomp a piped and jetted R. u do the math Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybonilla Posted September 24, 2005 Report Share Posted September 24, 2005 I would agree with thegroup Ive seen the 439cc 2004 yfz 450's take true 450cc honda 450rs every race at the track. Honda rushed to make a true 450, and the Yamaha prevails. Now Yamaha has a true 450, with more improvements. Honda owners say your prayers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STLBILL Posted September 24, 2005 Report Share Posted September 24, 2005 Okay. Here is my observation and my suspision. Not necessarily in that order. You guys tell me why I'm seeing what I'm seeing: I don't think YFZs can start in gear. This type of race (read on) gives the Hondas an advantage. I've been to about a 6-8 hare scrambles this year. Most of them use a "rider on-board, engine off" start. I consistently see electric start bikes sitting on the line a second or two after others have launched. Not all electric start bikes. And I'm not advocating that the 450Rs always get the hole shot. I'm just saying that kick start seems to have perhaps a 1-2 second advantage in this kind of start - unless you can't stow the kicker quickly or the bike doesn't fire on the first kick. Since the 450R is the only four-stroke kicker I have never yet seen a four-stroke kicker left on the line. I have witnessed some 250Rs and Banshees requiring a few kicks and a lot of Quadracers and Blasters pushed back to the pits. Keep in mind the kick-start bikes are allowed to be off the seat, kick-starter extended and their foot on it ready to go. The electric start bikes are sitting firmly on the seat - some in an aggressive "stance" position - seconds before the starter drops the flag. It almost seems like the electric start bikes are required to have their ignition keys off as a handicap to the kick-start bikes. The strange part is the Z400s, KFX400s and Predators have electric start, but they seem to just dump the clutch and go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheefreak Posted September 24, 2005 Report Share Posted September 24, 2005 Okay. Here is my observation and my suspision. Not necessarily in that order. You guys tell me why I'm seeing what I'm seeing: I don't think YFZs can start in gear. This type of race (read on) gives the Hondas an advantage. I've been to about a 6-8 hare scrambles this year. Most of them use a "rider on-board, engine off" start. I consistently see electric start bikes sitting on the line a second or two after others have launched. Not all electric start bikes. And I'm not advocating that the 450Rs always get the hole shot. I'm just saying that kick start seems to have perhaps a 1-2 second advantage in this kind of start - unless you can't stow the kicker quickly or the bike doesn't fire on the first kick. Since the 450R is the only four-stroke kicker I have never yet seen a four-stroke kicker left on the line. I have witnessed some 250Rs and Banshees requiring a few kicks and a lot of Quadracers and Blasters pushed back to the pits. Keep in mind the kick-start bikes are allowed to be off the seat, kick-starter extended and their foot on it ready to go. The electric start bikes are sitting firmly on the seat - some in an aggressive "stance" position - seconds before the starter drops the flag. It almost seems like the electric start bikes are required to have their ignition keys off as a handicap to the kick-start bikes. The strange part is the Z400s, KFX400s and Predators have electric start, but they seem to just dump the clutch and go. 418676[/snapback] doesnt matter who starts the race first its who finishes it first... so tell me out of the ones you have seen who finishes first the most... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegroup Posted September 24, 2005 Report Share Posted September 24, 2005 I would agree with thegroup Ive seen the 439cc 2004 yfz 450's take true 450cc honda 450rs every race at the track. Honda rushed to make a true 450, and the Yamaha prevails. Now Yamaha has a true 450, with more improvements. Honda owners say your prayers. 418675[/snapback] Okay. Here is my observation and my suspision. Not necessarily in that order. You guys tell me why I'm seeing what I'm seeing: I don't think YFZs can start in gear. This type of race (read on) gives the Hondas an advantage.......................... 418676[/snapback] good pt., u might be wrong about the yfz's not starting in gear, but then again, u could be right and i could be wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted September 24, 2005 Report Share Posted September 24, 2005 good pt., u might be wrong about the yfz's not starting in gear, but then again, u could be right and i could be wrong 418681[/snapback] my yfz450 will start in any gear..hell itll even start in neutral!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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