cam2 Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 i'm interested in getting a set and i was wondering how well they fit. do they clear the head without rubbing? is there plenty of stinger clearance over a set of K&N pod filters with outerwares (i have 35mm PWK's), about how much clearance is there? are the silencer end caps riveted or do thay have screws? how would you rate the overall fit and finish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reded Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 The fit is excellent, but ya better not ever plan on running an airbox. Stingers will hit pods but you can adjust the filter so it wont hit, actually just one of mine rubs and it's not much. The silencers are riveted(wish they had screws) and the chrome is a single step process, not triple plate show chrome. I like em tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
race-a-holic Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 If you are sitting on the bike(for reference),the left pipe will be extremely close to the head.I put washers in between where the hanger and the pipe attaches.I've had no problems with filter clearance.I'm not real crazy about the chrome finish.To me Toomey chrome is alot better.That being said,the performance these pipes give is nothing but AWESOME!Alot of people say these pipes pull really hard on topend.They're not kidding.Performance wise,they are the best pipes I've tried yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
23champ Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 Clearing the head is hard for any large pipe. I run CPI inframes and they also rub on the pod filters a little, and on engine deceleration the pipes rub the head a little causeing a vibrating sound. Its hard for these companys to get the performace everyone wants and have perfect fit. I can deal with spacing my pipes out a little if the perfomance is there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 i put header wrap on my silencer tubes so that they wouldnt burn thru my k and n's. works perfect... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cam2 Posted September 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 The fit is excellent, but ya better not ever plan on running an airbox. Stingers will hit pods but you can adjust the filter so it wont hit, actually just one of mine rubs and it's not much. The silencers are riveted(wish they had screws) and the chrome is a single step process, not triple plate show chrome. I like em tho. 414283[/snapback] just out of curiousity which one rubs? i thought they were riveted, that sucks. If you are sitting on the bike(for reference),the left pipe will be extremely close to the head.I put washers in between where the hanger and the pipe attaches.I've had no problems with filter clearance.I'm not real crazy about the chrome finish.To me Toomey chrome is alot better.That being said,the performance these pipes give is nothing but AWESOME!Alot of people say these pipes pull really hard on topend.They're not kidding.Performance wise,they are the best pipes I've tried yet. 414297[/snapback] i figured there would be clearance issues with the left side. Clearing the head is hard for any large pipe. I run CPI inframes and they also rub on the pod filters a little, and on engine deceleration the pipes rub the head a little causeing a vibrating sound. Its hard for these companys to get the performace everyone wants and have perfect fit. I can deal with spacing my pipes out a little if the perfomance is there. 414298[/snapback] i agree, it's tough to get good clearance with large expansion chambers, i was hoping that these would clear the head tho. i put header wrap on my silencer tubes so that they wouldnt burn thru my k and n's. works perfect... 414308[/snapback] yeah i bought some of that and probably will use it regardless of which pipes i run. the head clearance issue doesn't bother me that much, i could use some extra washers as race-a-holic mentioned (done that before) and/or i could take a rubber mallet and put a small dent in the area where it comes close to the head (done that before as well). right now i have trinity stageIV SS pipes and they push the f@ck out of the left filter, not slight contact but hard contact and if i were to put header wrap on the stinger then it would push it even harder. i contacted trinity and their solution was to zip tie the filters together, if i did that then i still wouldn't have enough clearance. so the main reason that i was looking at another set of pipes is that i was hopeing to gain some clearance between the filters and the stingers. i don't want to put uneccessary pressure on the intake and filter rubbers or tweak the positioning of the carbs or filters because i'm afraid that it may cause a slight air leak or one of the two will pop off while i'm running it. i know it's a tight fit and Yamaha wasn't considering the installation of big after market carbs and filters when they designed the frame, but damn it man. the shearers look like they were designed to clear the pod filters so that's why i'm entertaining the thought of getting a set. i spoke with Matt Shearer yesterday and he said that i shouldn't have any problems with clearance but it sounds like i may run into that issue with these as well, WTF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9603banshee Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 shearer's fit much better than cpi's, I own both, so yes, I can make this judgement...my 2 cents.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassbanshee479 Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 I am running 39 pwks with my inframe shearers and the only place they are real close is on the head on the lft side and they almost tuch the pod filters but they have not melted through them at all, I did put a zip tie on the outer wear to keep it off of the stinger tube just incase. only thing I disliked was the fact that you have to really streach the hell out of the stock springs to get them on the pipes from the jugs, my be diferent on stock jugs but my cubs are a pane in the ass to get the springs on!! my 2cents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
race-a-holic Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 I'm a fan of the inframe pipes myself.They don't scream DRAG BANSHEE!!! Have you considered a set of out of frame pipes though?Clearance problems would be gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cam2 Posted September 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 I'm a fan of the inframe pipes myself.They don't scream DRAG BANSHEE!!! Have you considered a set of out of frame pipes though?Clearance problems would be gone. 414480[/snapback] i like inframes as well, but when i noticed that i was having clearance trouble the first thing that came to mind was out of frames. if i could have gotten my hands on a set at that moment because i was so pissed i would have put them on and would have been done with it, but that's not what i want. how far are the bottom of the stingers above the bottom of the frame rails? i have about 1/8 to 1/4 inch gap between the top of the filter and the bottom of the frame so if the bottom of the stingers are about a 1/4 inch above the bottom of the frame rail then i should be fine . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketboy Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 get ahold of yourself man ,your gonna give yourself a heartattack ,theyll fit fine and look pleasing ,but the mid-top performance will clearly be the best part for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pest Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Mine fit fine, they don't touch the head nor the filters. the only sucky part about them is they spray oil all over my beer, I mean six pack rack! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cam2 Posted September 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 (edited) get ahold of yourself man ,your gonna give yourself a heartattack ,theyll fit fine and look pleasing ,but the mid-top performance will clearly be the best part Edited September 14, 2005 by cam2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNBRAD Posted September 14, 2005 Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 hahahaha, yeah yeah yeah i know, i'm just anal sometimes. when i had the 2-1 carb set up i had plenty of clearance. i spent a lot of money on a nice set of pipes that i can't/won't use now that i have dual 35's so i want to make sure these will work with little to no hassle. i know sometimes one has to do a little jerry riggin but i'm not doing that much jerry riggin, i'm not taking the chance on causing an air leak and frying my engine. i'm sure others that have the trinity pipes may have a little more clearance and they may not mind doing a little jerry rigging, good for them. 414721[/snapback] Chuck, contact Ron (bdbanshee) and have him send you some pics of his mod he did to allow room for the filters. Really trick, he took metal tubing and ran it back further beyond the stingers, was an awesome idea. Another option is to run the cone/tapered K&N filter as well. If you get a chance, measure the distance between stingers, you should have 6 1/2 inches, if not, your defintely going to run into some fitment issue's. my be diferent on stock jugs but my cubs are a pane in the ass to get the springs on!! Yes I swear they are twice as hard as stock jugs. You definitely need a pipe spring puller, 2 hands and some hellacious upper body strength. A big thanks to my wife for taking care of that for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cam2 Posted September 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 Chuck, contact Ron (bdbanshee) and have him send you some pics of his mod he did to allow room for the filters. Really trick, he took metal tubing and ran it back further beyond the stingers, was an awesome idea. Another option is to run the cone/tapered K&N filter as well. If you get a chance, measure the distance between stingers, you should have 6 1/2 inches, if not, your defintely going to run into some fitment issue's. 414876[/snapback] yeah i saw a few pics of that a while back, he did a damn good job. i thought about the angled filters, i thought about cutting the front section of the stinger off and plumbing in a new piece to avoid the filter, but screw that shit, i'm so pissed off i could shit fire. i've spent a lot of money with trinity in the past year or so and i've had nothing but issue after issue with their work and products, they will never get a dime of my money again. it's a damn shame when you have to jerry rig shit to get a $700 set of pipes to clear. thankfully i didn't spend that much for them but what a waste of time and money. if trinity knew that they have clearance issues which they know that they do with their inframes why didn't they redesign them or why don't they offer the angled or cone style filters when they sell their dual carb setups, that's piss poor planning and marketing. i just ordered a set of the inframe shearers from inland atv so i hope everything will go well with them, if not i'll send them back. matt shearer is one heck of a guy, i spoke with him on monday for a while as well as today after i ordered the pipes. thanks fellas for the replies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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