01 B4C Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 (edited) I just installed T5s on my 02 Banshee. Boy these pipes kick ass! Here is my set-up: T5s, K&N, stock lid no snorkel, stock carbs, 27.5 pilot, 280 mains, clip in the middle. I'm at sea level. My question is the bike is a little flat (or fat?) in the middle of the power band right before it gets up on the pipe. Once it Edited August 22, 2005 by 01 B4C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midnite Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Thats what my 87 does with toomey t-3. Light switch power. Dude, I was using 280 mj with the lid on, took the lid off for a pro flow, and had to use 320 mj and had alot more top end power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01 B4C Posted August 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Thats what my 87 does with toomey t-3. Light switch power. Dude, I was using 280 mj with the lid on, took the lid off for a pro flow, and had to use 320 mj and had alot more top end power. 407086[/snapback] Yes, my top end power is good. I just want to clear up the transition power in the middle. It Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellison445 Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 If your running Toomey needles thats your problem.. There is a flat spot on them. Once you install the V force reeds you wont even notice it, and I didnt have to rejet after installing mine but I did do several plug checks Yes, my top end power is good. I just want to clear up the transition power in the middle. It Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01 B4C Posted August 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 If your running Toomey needles thats your problem.. There is a flat spot on them. Once you install the V force reeds you wont even notice it, and I didnt have to rejet after installing mine but I did do several plug checks 407172[/snapback] I'm still running the stock needles on the 3rd spot. What needles are you running and in what location? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheeman350 Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Try this setup: 300 main jet 32.5 pilot jet Needle at the 4th clip Turn your air screws 1 1/2 turns out from fully turned in And remove your airbox lid for more airflow Try this setup and let me know how it works out for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01 B4C Posted August 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Try this setup: 300 main jet 32.5 pilot jet Needle at the 4th clip Turn your air screws 1 1/2 turns out from fully turned in And remove your airbox lid for more airflow Try this setup and let me know how it works out for you 407236[/snapback] Hey thanks What Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 (edited) 32.5 pilots if he plans on running alcohol...maybe. Without an airbox I run 27.5 with the screws about 2.25 turns out. Max is supposed to be 2.5...before you go the next size DOWN (25) You are too rich off the bottom already. Want proof? Pull your choke out halfway...it'll get even worse. If it's lean..which it isn't, you'll make it better. Put the stock pilots back in if you plan on running your airbox, with the air screws between 1 and 2 turns out. Remember to adjust them 1/4 turn at a time, with the engine warm...and allowing it to run for 20 to 30 seconds for the air screw adjusment to "set". The T5's a a little peaky. Not nearly as much as a drag...but more so than most pipes. I love mine...but, to be honest...my timing plate set at +4 degrees and lightened flywheel made a big difference. It still pulls..but, the hit is toned down just a bit. Considering you can get these mods both for under 100 to 110 bucks...do it. When you put the VForce reeds in, if your using the stock needles, move the clip one notch to the blunt end (leans it out). Actually...fix your pilot and air screw...ride it. Then...get your reeds...ride it. If it feels a bit sluggish in the mid, then adjust the clip on the needle. I have the Toomey/Dynojet needles...and in the 4th clip (they have 6 grooves as opposed to 5 stock) and I can't tell the difference between them and the stock...so, I just left 'em in. Good luck... Oh...and at sea level, with an air box and normal summer temps (70 to 90 degrees) you'll end up with a 270 to 300 Main, somewheres in there. Edited August 23, 2005 by dajogejr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshee~ Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Id put in 320 mains,27.5 pilots, and see what that does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 If he leaves the airbox AND cover on...I think 320's would be too rich. I'm running 330's with NO airbox and Pods. However...if you remove the lid, albeit it'll be rich...it won't be far off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01 B4C Posted August 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 32.5 pilots if he plans on running alcohol...maybe.Without an airbox I run 27.5 with the screws about 2.25 turns out. Max is supposed to be 2.5...before you go the next size DOWN (25) You are too rich off the bottom already. Want proof? Pull your choke out halfway...it'll get even worse. If it's lean..which it isn't, you'll make it better. Put the stock pilots back in if you plan on running your airbox, with the air screws between 1 and 2 turns out. Remember to adjust them 1/4 turn at a time, with the engine warm...and allowing it to run for 20 to 30 seconds for the air screw adjusment to "set". The T5's a a little peaky. Not nearly as much as a drag...but more so than most pipes. I love mine...but, to be honest...my timing plate set at +4 degrees and lightened flywheel made a big difference. It still pulls..but, the hit is toned down just a bit. Considering you can get these mods both for under 100 to 110 bucks...do it. When you put the VForce reeds in, if your using the stock needles, move the clip one notch to the blunt end (leans it out). Actually...fix your pilot and air screw...ride it. Then...get your reeds...ride it. If it feels a bit sluggish in the mid, then adjust the clip on the needle. I have the Toomey/Dynojet needles...and in the 4th clip (they have 6 grooves as opposed to 5 stock) and I can't tell the difference between them and the stock...so, I just left 'em in. Good luck... Oh...and at sea level, with an air box and normal summer temps (70 to 90 degrees) you'll end up with a 270 to 300 Main, somewheres in there. 407410[/snapback] Wow, thanks for the detailed information! I will get on it this weekend and try it out. When I turn the air screws out that's leaner, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Yes...that is correct. Turning out the air screws allows more air through the low speed, or pilot circuit. Making it leaner... Good luck... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icecold_shee Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 I have t5's, v-force reeds, no air box, and mine is jetted with 340 mains, dont know about the pilot, was this way when i bought it, but it runs great from mid to top end, so you might try 340s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 I have t5's, v-force reeds, no air box, and mine is jetted with 340 mains, dont know about the pilot, was this way when i bought it, but it runs great from mid to top end, so you might try 340s 407595[/snapback] He is using the airbox, with lid...no snorkel. I'd say anything over 300 is going to be rich...period... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomey Banshee Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 I'm running 320's, Toomey needles 4 down (I think, its been awhile since I messed with them), stock pilots, V-Force, air box with no lid and pro design foam filter at sea level. Runs perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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