Banshee rage Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 I have 2005 Banshee with the following mods Pro Circuit pipes V-Force 3 reeds Boost bottle Milled head K & N pod filters Dirt Digger carbon fiber clutch Stock pilot, Vito's needle on 3rd position (Stock) and main jet is 300 Stock carbs and airscrews are 2 turns out. Running 40 to 1 mix (R50 synthetic) Think iam rich on the main- Any body have any advice. Rage on fellow riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer714 Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 I have 2005 Banshee with the following modsPro Circuit pipes V-Force 3 reeds Boost bottle Milled head K & N pod filters Dirt Digger carbon fiber clutch Stock pilot, Vito's needle on 3rd position (Stock) and main jet is 300 Stock carbs and airscrews are 2 turns out. Running 40 to 1 mix (R50 synthetic) Think iam rich on the main- Any body have any advice. Rage on fellow riders. 379791[/snapback] Im in chicago, close to same ele, Id say you are rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian G Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 I would go back to the stock needle 2nd clip from the top, get yourself a 35 pilot and 330 mains and 1 turn out on the screw!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheefreak Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 I would think you would be in the ballpark, but not sure w/pro-circuits. If I remember right, I don't think they are a big gas hog though, I don't think I would go up any more on the pilots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 I would go back to the stock needle 2nd clip from the top, get yourself a 35 pilot and 330 mains and 1 turn out on the screw!!! 380140[/snapback] I hope you mean 25pilot. 35 is HUGE....way too much. From what I've read...I forgot if it's ProCircuits or FMF that like Fat pilots. I have similar mods to you (in my sig) and my main is a 330. However....I don't have a milled head or VForce. I know you are supposed to lean your needles one clip with those cages... The question is...you THINK you're lean...what do your plugs say? Do a search on Plug Chop...that's the real key. I have a 27.5 pilot, and now that it's blazing hot here...I"m thinking bumping down to a 25 again, with .5 to 1 out on the screws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian G Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 35 pilot is correct, we have a dyno and have done extensive research and PRO'S like the large pilot! but it does depend on the needle position. For his mods though this would be a good setup, I have had the exact same setup on the dyno and that is what worked best. as far as air fuel ratio's go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 35 pilots on stock carbs, no porting or stroked motor...sorry...dont' think so. Sorry...Brian. That dyno is measuring peak or higher RPMs... How do you dyno less than 4000 RPMs, where the pilot cuts out and the needle kicks in. On stock carbs wtih his setup...no way... Pro Circuits might flow 30's...tops on a stock port motor. I completely agree with you on the mains and needle. I'd need some strong convincing on that fat of a pilot. All he's got over me is a milled head and VForce...and a 27.5 pilot with 2.25 to 2.5 out on the screws or a 25 pilot with .5 or 1.0 on the screws is perfect, in our location. I don't see a PC pipe kit needing that much more pilot...on a stock motor at least. Regardless...he's talking about a fat main, and has yet to answer on the condition of his plugs.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 Hey Rage...check out this thread. By no means am I saying bluetraxx.com is the final answer...but, when you have pages and pages of jetting specs, they can't all be wrong... Brian...I looked through the first few pages....any pipes they were running, from DMC to Pro Circuit, FMF to T5s...30 pilot was the largest they used. Take a look for yourself... http://www.bluetraxx.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=19889 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshee rage Posted June 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 Hey Rage...check out this thread. By no means am I saying bluetraxx.com is the final answer...but, when you have pages and pages of jetting specs, they can't all be wrong... Brian...I looked through the first few pages....any pipes they were running, from DMC to Pro Circuit, FMF to T5s...30 pilot was the largest they used. Take a look for yourself... http://www.bluetraxx.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=19889 380522[/snapback] [/quote Hey guys I haven't got a chance to check my plugs yet. But i had 30 pilots in and it bogged off the line so i went back to 25 pilot. And it seems to be good again. Before my plugs were wet and dark with the 30 pilot. I Called Pro Circuit and thay said to use 25 pilots. But i still think i maybe a little rich on the main dose 300 main sound to rich to you guys and 2 turns out air screws what do you guys think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 You need to do a plug chop to check your mains. You need to go out and buy 4 or 6 plugs. Warm the bike up on some old plugs. Then, do your plug chop. Also, you can try the choke trick. with the bike warmed up, go for ride, and pull the choke half way out. If it bogs and sputters...your main is too rich. If it runs better and revs cleaner....you're lean. Check the sticky posted at the top of this page...it's got a ton of good info and baselines on there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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