Quinlan Posted July 8, 2005 Report Posted July 8, 2005 Out of the box vs. out of the box, v force 2's are better. What ive heard is that you have to modify the vforce 3's to make them better, and they are better for alky, dont quote me on that thou. 376136[/snapback] What kind of mod do they do to them vf3's? Anywhere I can get info on this mod? Thanks Quote
Banshee~ Posted July 10, 2005 Report Posted July 10, 2005 What kind of mod do they do to them vf3's? Anywhere I can get info on this mod?Thanks 390073[/snapback] No one is telling, but I think it has something to do with the thickness of the reed petals. Quote
Big Blue Posted July 11, 2005 Report Posted July 11, 2005 Just curious why why you think it is the reed petals? Quote
94BANSHEE Posted July 11, 2005 Report Posted July 11, 2005 so on a fairly stock engine, i run stock head,cylinders , except cylinders are 0.30 over, pipes and timing plate. would it be a SAFER choice to get the V-FOrce 2's instead of 3's ????????? would i see any reason to get the 3's for more top speed?? is there a HUGE difference?? Quote
Banshee~ Posted July 11, 2005 Report Posted July 11, 2005 Just curious why why you think it is the reed petals? 390944[/snapback] Ive heard guy on ps talking about thickness of them might beeing a factor, but i dont have any idea. Quote
Holyman Posted July 11, 2005 Report Posted July 11, 2005 (edited) The Moto Tassinari VForce3 reed valve system is the number one choice of the Factory teams. Currently more Factory race teams depend on our reed valve technology than all the other brands combined. Our valve incorporates features you won't find with other system on the market. With such features as twice the reed tip surface, adjustable reed stops, radius cage surface and more. By doubling the reed tip surface the petals now only need to open half as far to have the same flow as a stock style cage. This is a significant advantage when you factor in that a reed petal opens and closes 133 times per second at 8,000 rpm. The petals are only traveling half the distance of a stock style cage, so now fatigue to the petal has been greatly reduced, increasing petal life. This design also enables the valve to drastically improve the entire powerband with a significant boost in the bottom and mid. Instant throttle response is an understatement! The petals now sit on a radius surface to create a "pre-loading" effect that improves an already snappy acceleration. Our new cage design now allows the reed petal tips to be recessed into the cage itself. This allows for a cushioning of the reed tips and also discourages the possibility of any back-flow. Every VForce reed valve comes with adjustable reed stops to allow you the ability to change the reed tension in a matter of minutes from high to low. While this is designed to be a fine tuning of the powerband you will certainly notice a difference when adjusting the reed tension. We recommend the low setting for more bottom end and the high to improve top-end power. Changes on the VForce3: While the VForce3 reed valve system may look barely changed for 2004, nothing could be further from the truth. The VForce3 was developed with direct feedback from riders such as Factory Honda Edited July 11, 2005 by Holyman Quote
redcell43 Posted July 13, 2005 Report Posted July 13, 2005 I think ethier one works great in banshees. just get what you think will work better for you i went with VF3's and they work great on my shee. Quote
wesw Posted July 19, 2005 Report Posted July 19, 2005 i have the 2s i cant keep the fucking screws in teh blocks adn cant keep the petals from breaking. ive used blue loctite like is was going out of style. now im getting the 3s basically cause there isnt any screws. Quote
sycoracer911 Posted July 22, 2005 Report Posted July 22, 2005 The Moto Tassinari VForce3 reed valve system is the number one choice of the Factory teams. Currently more Factory race teams depend on our reed valve technology than all the other brands combined. Our valve incorporates features you won't find with other system on the market. With such features as twice the reed tip surface, adjustable reed stops, radius cage surface and more. By doubling the reed tip surface the petals now only need to open half as far to have the same flow as a stock style cage. This is a significant advantage when you factor in that a reed petal opens and closes 133 times per second at 8,000 rpm. The petals are only traveling half the distance of a stock style cage, so now fatigue to the petal has been greatly reduced, increasing petal life. This design also enables the valve to drastically improve the entire powerband with a significant boost in the bottom and mid. Instant throttle response is an understatement! The petals now sit on a radius surface to create a "pre-loading" effect that improves an already snappy acceleration. Our new cage design now allows the reed petal tips to be recessed into the cage itself. This allows for a cushioning of the reed tips and also discourages the possibility of any back-flow. Every VForce reed valve comes with adjustable reed stops to allow you the ability to change the reed tension in a matter of minutes from high to low. While this is designed to be a fine tuning of the powerband you will certainly notice a difference when adjusting the reed tension. We recommend the low setting for more bottom end and the high to improve top-end power. Changes on the VForce3: While the VForce3 reed valve system may look barely changed for 2004, nothing could be further from the truth. The VForce3 was developed with direct feedback from riders such as Factory Honda Quote
Klotzban1 Posted August 5, 2005 Report Posted August 5, 2005 I run v3's on my shee and no complaints here. My shees motor isn't built yet,...just what you see in my sig. The pull really puts the white in your knuckles!! Quote
Dead Op Posted August 6, 2005 Report Posted August 6, 2005 How do the Ras Valves from Boyeson compare, I just bought a pair and need some info on them, if you hjave to rejet which jets should I be messin with? Quote
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