rocket pipes on a stocker?

[dajogejr]

Clark boys turned me onto Jeff W. @ FAST Racing for my clutch.

 

Best choice yet.

 

I'm not a fanboy of them, but...untill they steer me wrong, I'll listen to their advice.

 

I've got T5's now...and I've been waiting on Ray to get Rockets in...to test them.

 

Ray is willing to give a free set of Rockets to test, if the user pays shipping. Since I live 20 miles from him, I can pick 'em up locally...and can't wait to test 'em.

 

I'm Not knocking anyone...but, does Shearer offer to let you test their pipes?

 

Personally...I think the Rockets look different...and very nice.

However...I pull my plugs in my shee at least two to three times a day...when riding, just to be sure I'm not missing anything.

 

I'm sure all pipes work great for different reasons for different shops for different motor work....

 

Ford/Chevy/Dodge...

 

Stop all the hating....personal opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one.

 

Make a statement based on what you know, what you've experience...and that's it.

 

If I took a bone stock shee...and raced side by side next to a ported, piped, stroked, bored..etc., shee and beat them...does that give me reason to talk shit about his mods and/or their makers? NO...(but...it does give me a reason to tell that dipshit he/she can't ride...

 

it's all about personal preference...and what works for YOU...not the next person.

 

Kinda like jetting...no one setting works for all...it's your own experience and cirumstance that works for YOU.

[Oilsmoke]

I've got T5's now...and I've been waiting on Ray to get Rockets in...to test them.

 

Ray is willing to give a free set of Rockets to test, if the user pays shipping.

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[racer]

Shearer Custom Pipes  Does Offer A Pipe build to Customer Spec's For Mods you are running.

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[dajogejr]

Yeah, Oilsmoke...I'm not nocking Shearer....It's just too bad they don't have a demo set.

 

I think Rockets are so small...at this point, they can afford to do that....in order to pass the word.

 

I really...really like my T5s. But, I got this from a buddy in February...and T5's went on soon after to replace the stockers. As you can imagine...night and day difference (my 450R buddies will atest to that)

 

Nothing wrong with trying something new...though.

[locogato11283]

It's people like you that like to start up the drama and bullshit on this board.

 

Both are great pipes. I say go with whatever you want to. 

well stephen said it best right there, "both pipes are great". so all this got started of because what stephen said? he sat right there and said they are both good pipes, and i agree. same with cpi's. on our motors rockets happen to make more power than cpi's. we didnt have shearers to test so we dont know about them.

 

without being biased to the pipes that I run I would say that shearer, rockets, and CPI's are all fairly close in performance. If you were running one of them and then went to the other you probably wouldnt notice much of a diferance. However, going from stock to a piped shee is night and day. Its a whole diferent animal once you add pipes. Hold on cause shee's going to move your ass!!!!

agree 100% with this statement. for any average rider its not likely that youll even notice a 3 horsepower difference wither way.

 

The Thing I like about SHearer Pipes is the Builder Background.

Not many Had the Schooling Matt Shearer had with Kenny Roberts And race Team.Hard to beat a Grand National Race winner.

But I will Agree with Nugshee All three of them Pipes Are Great Choice, All 3 have a Hard pulling Topend. Look for Deals, Prices, Chrome or Not, style, workmanship. Customer Service Etc...

Good Luck making your mind up with All the Choices out there. 

i agree here too. price does play a large part to ppl. if you cant afford rockets or cpi go with shearers. thats what i would have done had i not been aboe to afford rockets.

 

StClark, Noob41 Not the Only One Striring the Shit around Here.

Seam to me Than some Poeple Opinions Only Count if You run the Same Stuff they Do, Which is Utter Bullshit.So would you PLease Break your Little Brother's Stick.

this comment was definitely not called for. ppl dont HAVO to listen to us. they just do. ill give my opinion at any time about anything, just like everyone else should. but no1 should get bent out of shape when someone says something they dont like. i wasnt in fact stirring shit, i was actually joking when i made the remark about the good laugh.

 

no kidding, if you dont buy what the clark boys use, then it is no good or less than. I have seen with my own two eyes banshees make more power and rpm's with shearer pipes. I had all 3 (cpi, rockets, shearer), I pratically gave my rockets away on ebay because they dont hold a candle to the other two. Ask any builder what pipe is best for power and rpm's and they will tell you " shearer or cpi's"

You guys are trying to create this hype on here about rocket pipes for whatever reasons, and it aint happening. Go to planetsand and ask about rockets, then ask about shearer or cpi's. rockets get laughed at, yeah they're different but who cares how different your exhaust is if it doesnt perform? plus they are ugly, they create difficulties with spark plugs and gas petcock.

and to everybody else GET OFF THE CLARK BOYS NUTS!!!!!!

i love it how you talk about us all the time. perhaps youd like to join the rest of HQ and get on my nuts??

 

there you get the clark boys on me, if you have them on your side, you have the entire hq. so what they beat people with rocket pipes, I have beat people with t-3's. yeah you can get any dyno to read what ever you want, so then you can skew a dyno to make rockets look better too. bare rusty rockets for $450 or nice shearer chrome that out perform rockets for $450, hmmmmm let me think about that. you need to push your rocket pipes on here because this is the only place where people will buy something because the clark boys say so. if they would ask around else where they would get the truth. i never said rockets were pieces of shit, I said the lack in power in comparison to others, they are ugly and they make it hard to turn your gas off and get spark plugs out. You are in a position to gain financialy if you can convince all these hq'rs that your pipes are the best. so you have the clark boys hype your pipes up and then these guys buy them up. yeah some engines make good power with rockets, but it'll make more and rev higher with shearers

if u ever looked at my dyno charts on the rocket website youd know that on MY motor rockets made more power. so how are they down in power? im here to tell u that no1 makes me hype up shit. i hype up good products and good ppl. simple as that.

 

ouch im hurt, someone thinks im an ass, oh poor me. how long have rockets been out? when something is good or great, word gets out. There is no word out about rockets except on BHQ. There is a reason why the crowd is following the cpi - shearer band wagon.....BECAUSE THEY WORK. If you want an exhaust to stand out from the rest, your right, you should get rockets, they are ugly and they make less power, you will definatley stand out or to the back at least.

so ur sayin that if the best pipes in the world made 15 more hp than everyone else you wouldnt run them because they are ugly??? check my drag video son. see how many times we were at the back of the pack?

 

im a moderator on everything2stroke we have 2,100 members now and theyrs plenty of talk about how nice rockets perform and none of the clark brothers are over their as of yet.blowtraxx even talks about how sweet rockets are .as far as rockets on planet sand sight they kinda suck in my opinion ,good technical info ,but not a very fun casual open forum site IMO.i bought rockets before i ever even posted on this site, even Jim at passion racing says rockets are really good race pipes and he sells shearers. they arent ugly to me ,theyre really kinda sexy lookin and i dont want a pipe every body and their sisters vibrator uses . they are all 3 good choices ,it comes down to preference and your not gonna tell me you noticed a huge seat of the pants difference by running 1 pipe over the others as far as performance .

ive never been there and will never go there. dont go to BT either unless im tryin to sell something. ive pimped rockets on PS before. if they dont wanna run them they just dont. they dont make a big deal about it like some ppl do...

[Oilsmoke]

Yeah, Oilsmoke...I'm not nocking Shearer....It's just too bad they don't have a demo set.

 

I think Rockets are so small...at this point, they can afford to do that....in order to pass the word.

 

I really...really like my T5s.  But, I got this from a buddy in February...and T5's went on soon after to replace the stockers.  As you can imagine...night and day difference (my 450R buddies will atest to that)

 

Nothing wrong with trying something new...though.

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Hear is how I feel about my Shearer Pro

[Fireman-hott]

Noob41, not many builders have Rockets to do testing with.

Let them get around and test some and I bet they find a port timing that makes them shine, actually we have that timing if any builder wants some.

 

And for the gaining financially bullshit. I dont stand to gain a fucking penny for the first 150-200 sets. I have alot of money staked in the company.

How long have shearer been out? How about Toomey? or maybe CPI? than put that against Rockets for how small the company is, word of mouth is traveling fast, and word doesn't travel like that without them doing and/or beating the other competators.

 

 

As for testing a set whoever was waiting I do have 2 bare sets, I may pass one off to Ray come next weekend at Silver Lake for you to try out. Yeah we are small enough that we can do that, but pending any stupid bullshit I would like to keep that going no matter how big or small we get.

 

As for the chrome it is a Triple Plated Show Chrome, the shit looks outstanding hands down.

 

As for price, yeah I could meet the price for a new set of sheaers, but than my people wouldn't be making shit off them, why sell something if they are gonna make $20/set. Thats damn near not enough to cover the cost of web hosting and banner ads.

 

Give me time to stack up some cash they wil end up in dirtwheels(even though that mags stacked sometimes) in either a shootout or as an ad.

 

As for the peatcock, yeah its a bitch to get to but a screwdriver goes a long way in that aspect.

 

As for the plugs you can get right to them through the bend. I know I have done it fouling out plugs. Its very easy, so dont lay that cant get to my plugs bullshit on me.

[racer]

How about Toomey?

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since the RZ days, a long fucking-time. not to mention tommey has had 6 different designs, two are still in production. (t5 and tr6)

[Oilsmoke]

Let them get around and test some and I bet they find a port timing that makes them shine, actually we have that timing if any builder wants some.

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If my Memory is correct the Maker was on here and i think He said 200 degree exhaust was here they Shine. But i could be Wrong. So take it with little salt.

[broke]

since the RZ days, a long fucking-time.  not to mention tommey has had 6 different designs, two are still in production. (t5 and tr6)

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Speaking of RZs, they definately have the market on building pipes for RZ motors in Banshees.

 

Too much stupid argueing about whos tie is the redest. A pipe that is built to peak with 194 degrees of exhaust timing is going to run better with cylinders built with that timing. Put PTR mids on a drag motor and they are going to be down on power, but put some out of frame drag pipes on a stocker and it will be down on power compared to the PTRs. There is "NO" perfect pipe for everyone. I think Rockets, Shearer and CPIs are going to offer about the best top end you are going to find in a pipe you can still trail ride with. Are there pipes that will make more power, sure.

 

I think one of the things that is making Rockets what they are "IS" Ray. Small companies are nothing with out great customer service, and you really couldn't do a better job than him.

 

I run Rocket pipes and can keep up with some pretty fast bikes with my MX motor. I've actually had mine for quite along time, longer than most and I am still trying to figure out the best set up as far as porting and bolt ons to get the most out of them.

[stclark816]

StClark,  Noob41 Not the Only One Striring the Shit around Here.

Seam to me Than some Poeple Opinions Only Count if You run the Same Stuff they Do, Which is Utter Bullshit.So would you PLease Break your Little Brother's Stick.

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How did I stir any shit? If you can read, I clearly said both pipes are great pipes. I believe ur buddy noob started the shit stiring here.

 

no kidding, if you dont buy what the clark boys use, then it is no good or less than.  I have seen with my own two eyes banshees make more power and rpm's with shearer pipes.  I had all 3 (cpi, rockets, shearer), I pratically gave my rockets away on ebay because they dont hold a candle to the other two.  Ask any builder what pipe is best for power and rpm's and they will tell you " shearer or cpi's"

You guys are trying to create this hype on here about rocket pipes for whatever reasons, and it aint happening.  Go to planetsand and ask about rockets, then ask about shearer or cpi's.  rockets get laughed at, yeah they're different but who cares how different your exhaust is if it doesnt perform?  plus they are ugly, they  create difficulties with spark plugs and gas petcock. 

and to everybody else GET OFF THE CLARK BOYS NUTS!!!!!!

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Again, I didnt say that if I dont use it it's junk. Again if you can read, which I know you cant, I said both we great pipes, Id run either pipe, I just like Rockets better. It's ok, deep down I know ur just jealous and you wish you could be on my nuts, it's ok.

 

there you get the clark boys on me, if you have them on your side, you have the entire hq.  so what they beat people with rocket pipes, I have beat people with t-3's.  yeah you can get any dyno to read what ever you want, so then you can skew a dyno to make rockets look better too.  bare rusty rockets for $450 or nice shearer chrome that out perform rockets for $450,  hmmmmm let me think about that.  you need to push your rocket pipes on here because this is the only place where people will buy something because the clark boys say so.  if they would ask around else where they would get the truth.  i never said rockets were pieces of shit, I said the lack in power in comparison to others, they are ugly and they make it hard to turn your gas off and get spark plugs out.  You are in a position to gain financialy if you can convince all these hq'rs that your pipes are the best.  so you have the clark boys hype your pipes up and then these guys buy them up.  yeah some engines make good power with rockets, but it'll make more and rev higher with shearers

 

noob out

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Why are you so jealous of us???

[Minkia38]

geeze, what is this forum coming to? Everybody is entitled to their opinions. Yes, stock pipes will blow rockets away. I have had 1 or 2 people out of over 100 not like thier Rockets. We offer a guarantee, if you dont like them, send them back for a refund. How much more fair can I be? Dont bash the pipes because we have an operating overhead of $20,000, instead of 2,000,000 like toomey or FMF has. We are the little farmer on the side of the street selling our homegrown sweet corn for $3.00 a dozem when farmer jack can buy up the entire state of Nebraska and sell the corn for $2.00 a dozen.

 

If ya dont like them, but something else

dont tell everyone that because we dont advertise, we arent good