njbanshee Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 I'm looking into getting an extended swingarm, but i have no idea what size i should get. I like to drag race against friends and anyone who thinks they got a fast quad, nothing too serious, jumping, and i would still like to be able to go through trails when i need to, And i still wanna ride wheellies all day. Can anyone reccomend a good size for me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 (edited) I have a +4 on mine. I like it for the same type of riding you mention - except for wheelies. Mines not nearly as prone to raise the front end now. That's how I wanted it to behave. You extend much beyond stock and wheelies are not going to be something you can do as easily, at least for my shee. Edited April 11, 2005 by Cannon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixitrod Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 I made a +3 for mine to go to glamis. I can ride a wheelie out super slow and a long way with my -2. It was very difficult to ride one with the +3. I did get it to balance some and ride kind of slow.. but it wasn't easy. It's give or take. I couldn't believe how much better I could launce in the sand though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 well its kinda like wanting tons of low and and tons of top end. just really hard to accomplish. i would say that if you go any longer than +2 you will have no chance at riding really good long wheelies. i wouldnt want any longer than +2 in the woods thats for sure. i run +4 on mine but its a hillclimber and thats about all its used for. i would say to be safe go with a +2 and learn to lean up for the drag launches... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton eyed Joe Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 well its kinda like wanting tons of low and and tons of top end. just really hard to accomplish. i would say that if you go any longer than +2 you will have no chance at riding really good long wheelies. i wouldnt want any longer than +2 in the woods thats for sure. i run +4 on mine but its a hillclimber and thats about all its used for. i would say to be safe go with a +2 and learn to lean up for the drag launches... 353510[/snapback] I agree. The further back you go, the less weight over those tires, but the front end won't be coming up. You can paddle up then to get more traction, but like loco said if you want it kind of in the middle where you can still wheelie but still be able to keep the front end down a bit go with a +2. Personally I've seen some with a +4 wheelie all day but its going to take a bit more engine to accomplish and it won't be as trail friendly as the +2 or +3 would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05bansh Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 What do you guys think about the +4 for dune riding? My shee is definately a hill shooter, but I love to go play around in the dunes, ride bowls, and jump a little. Is the +4 too much? I dont ever ride trails. Just dunes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton eyed Joe Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 What do you guys think about the +4 for dune riding? My shee is definately a hill shooter, but I love to go play around in the dunes, ride bowls, and jump a little. Is the +4 too much? I dont ever ride trails. Just dunes 353583[/snapback] I tend to think a +4 is about perfect for duning. You can still jump with out having your chain real loose, and if you have the power you can still wheelie, but its more controlled and you're less likely to wheelie over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNBRAD Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 I tend to think a +4 is about perfect for duning. You can still jump with out having your chain real loose, and if you have the power you can still wheelie, but its more controlled and you're less likely to wheelie over. 353612[/snapback] I totally agree!!! I love my +4 for general duning though I think a plus 6 may come in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Duece Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 well since you didnt mention draggin in the dunes id go a -2........smokin for the trails, by far the best for any jump over 20 feet, best traction youll get, for hill climbs in the dirt, an exteneded swing arm sucks, some guys run them and just spin up hills, id rather wheelie up a 300 foot climb.......... if you got a 2+1 or bigger front end id shorten the bitch, youll hook up.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 well since you didnt mention draggin in the dunes id go a -2........smokin for the trails, by far the best for any jump over 20 feet, best traction youll get, for hill climbs in the dirt, an exteneded swing arm sucks, some guys run them and just spin up hills, id rather wheelie up a 300 foot climb.......... if you got a 2+1 or bigger front end id shorten the bitch, youll hook up.... 353710[/snapback] ill have to disagree with the swingarm in the dirt comment. as a person who has been dirt hillclimbing for 3 years now in missouri, kansas, and minnesota i have tried all types of lengths, gearing etc...i have found that better tires with a longer swinger works best. short swingers in the dirt, especially loose dirt makes you really squirrally. my ass end was all over with a shorter swinger. longer swinger and i stayed much more straight. i run a set of kenda knarlys with every other row cut out of them. if i were to try a -2 swinger or even stock swinger for that matter id be on my ass everytime i dropped the clutch. the +4 is just about right for this. just so u know im not bullshittin, i was number 1 in points in kansas and missouri last year. also took 2nd at the regional hillclimb competition with the fastest guys from kansas, missouri, iowa, nebraska, minnesota, wisconsin, and illinois. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Duece Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 I'm looking into getting an extended swingarm, but i have no idea what size i should get. I like to drag race against friends and anyone who thinks they got a fast quad, nothing too serious, jumping, and i would still like to be able to go through trails when i need to, And i still wanna ride wheellies all day. Can anyone reccomend a good size for me? 353342[/snapback] My bad Locco, i must have skipped over the part where he asked about dragging up groomed hillclimbs, i thought he wanted to ride wheelies and trails probally having to billy goat up most hills and get the jump on his pals he's drag racing with longer arms, in which case while his pals spinning he'll hook and be gone, i know all the 400-700 foot climbs we have out here are all ruts full of switchbacks and shail, when i run a +2 arm with 22" kenda bearclaws i cant hit first or second gear to negotiate ruts or sharp turns without spinning so bad i dig a whole but whith a -2 im damm near sitting on my axle and can stop on almost verticle inclines and take back off again, and on the same hills a 22 foot long F-250 4x4 cant even begin to make it but a little short wheelbased Jeep CJ-5 goes up all day long, but ill agree for compition climbs a longer arm is the way to go....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 My bad Locco, i must have skipped over the part where he asked about dragging up groomed hillclimbs, i thought he wanted to ride wheelies and trails probally having to billy goat up most hills and get the jump on his pals he's drag racing with longer arms, in which case while his pals spinning he'll hook and be gone, i know all the 400-700 foot climbs we have out here are all ruts full of switchbacks and shail, when i run a +2 arm with 22" kenda bearclaws i cant hit first or second gear to negotiate ruts or sharp turns without spinning so bad i dig a whole but whith a -2 im damm near sitting on my axle and can stop on almost verticle inclines and take back off again, and on the same hills a 22 foot long F-250 4x4 cant even begin to make it but a little short wheelbased Jeep CJ-5 goes up all day long, but ill agree for compition climbs a longer arm is the way to go....... 353869[/snapback] yea in the trails where theres a lot of ruts, rocks and bullshit like thatd i would rather be shorter, mainly cuz i dont run a set of cut knobby tires for it. i run regular knobbys when im not hillclimbing. i dont think he even mentioned competition hillclimbs i just assumed you meant competition hillclimbs because of the 300 foot hillclimb comment. most of our climbs are 300 foot and i thought thats what you were referring to. def if hes running regular knobby tires he should stay shorter to get a jump on his buddies and to be able to ride wheelies. for around here i found that +2 was about as long as i wanted to go and still get good traction and maneuverability in the trails. after going back and reading again what hes looking for he def needs to stay shorter. maybe not even -2 but def no longer than +2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CombatTalon2 Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 Love my Quicksand +4 in the dunes along with the +2+1 front end! Shee still wheelies on command too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Duece Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Love my Quicksand +4 in the dunes along with the +2+1 front end! Shee still wheelies on command too! 354101[/snapback] see you just cant beat that shit in the sand i love riding with an extended arm in the dunes, i really like the +2 for dunes but im an mx or open desert rider, the plus four allways felt like i was driving a station wagon to me i like to be able to carve and long jump dunes......... draging up hills against the clock makes you suss out all the little shit, that either gains or looses you time...... same as racing moto cross, a stinking second means being the first one over the line or the first looser over the line, swing arm length changes the whole geomitry of the bike, its cool that some of the billit guys make +2 and +4 extensions for cheap, so you can have a -2 and bolt up a 4" over extension and go duning ........ fellas..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbanshee Posted April 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 I'm still not sure what to buy. After reading all the replies i think stock or +2 will be best. I really like to wheelie and jump, but i can't turn down a good race. I hate to lose so i wanna keep the front end down off the line. I also wanna make my quad look nicer, with a new swingarm round carrier and a new +2 axle. I think +2 might be the best bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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