Thumb throttle switch (TORS)

[SDD]

Ok guys... just wanted to see what you people think this switch actually does and how it works. No short answers "ugg its the TORS system". I want specifics on what the switch controls and how/when it works. Let the replys rip.

[BenBB]

I dunno the specific guts of what's inside the control box, but got a basic theory of operation on it:

 

The switch in the thumb throttle housing is a simple on/off switch; when the control box senses this switch's signal (most likely when the circuit is closed-when the thumb throttle has been released), it tells the carb boxes not to raise the slides AND I suspect it tells the CDI (via the black/white kill wire) not to spark above about 1000-1500 RPM.

 

The switch on the e-brake perch is just like the throttle switch; when the e-brake is engaged (and most likely when the switch is open), the control box won't let the slides raise or RPM to increase.

 

I have no idea how the carb boxes work, never had them on mine so haven't had a chance to crack 'em open and see what's in there. Their sole purpose from what I can tell is to prevent the slides from raising when they get a signal from the control box on the black/yellow wire. Looking at the wiring diagram it looks like they aren't independent; both are overridden at once or not at all.

 

So essentially, the system will override throttling if the e-brake is engaged, or if the thumb throttle is released. Hope that helps man. BTW that control box makes a handy doorstop heh.

[SDD]

Anyone else?

[wood]

took my thumb thorttle off and put on quarter twist,but what i heard is that the TORS was set up so that if the thorttle ever got stuck wide open it would shut the carbs down.

[racer]

The switch in the thumb throttle housing is a simple on/off switch; when the control box senses this switch's signal (most likely when the circuit is closed-when the thumb throttle has been released), it tells the carb boxes not to raise the slides AND I suspect it tells the CDI (via the black/white kill wire) not to spark above about 1000-1500 RPM.

 

The switch on the e-brake perch is just like the throttle switch; when the e-brake is engaged (and most likely when the switch is open), the control box won't let the slides raise or RPM to increase.

 

I have no idea how the carb boxes work, never had them on mine so haven't had a chance to crack 'em open and see what's in there.  Their sole purpose from what I can tell is to prevent the slides from raising when they get a signal from the control box on the black/yellow wire.  Looking at the wiring diagram it looks like they aren't independent; both are overridden at once or not at all.

 

So essentially, the system will override throttling if the e-brake is engaged, or if the thumb throttle is released.  Hope that helps man.  BTW that control box makes a handy doorstop heh.

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since i read bens electtrical FAQ, thats where my answer came from. so ill save you some time in reading it.

[Capone]

I thought the TORS was just for the ebrake? So you couldn't gas it when the brake was on? Dunno. ;x

[SDD]

took my thumb thorttle off and put on quarter twist,but what i heard is that the TORS was set up so that if the thorttle ever got stuck wide open it would shut the carbs down.

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Wood did you not notice where I said "ugg it's the tors system"...

 

 

Shee K this is going to be straight forward and to the point. YOUR AN IDIOT. Did you just read the title of my post and think you had to throw in your two cents? You don't need to answer that...

[Capone]

Wood did you not notice where I said "ugg it's the tors system"...

Shee K this is going to be straight forward and to the point. YOUR AN IDIOT. Did you just read the title of my post and think you had to throw in your two cents? You don't need to answer that...

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Its funny, people ask questions then flame your answers. Why don't you stop calling names and use the search button like you should have done in the first place. IDIOT. Do us a favor, take the ends of the TORS and cross em stick em in your gas tank. See if that works.

[Capone]

Ok guys... just wanted to see what you people think this switch actually does and how it works.

 

So don't be such a dick, because that is what I think. So fuck off.

[fixitrod]

I dunno the specific guts of what's inside the control box, but got a basic theory of operation on it:

 

The switch in the thumb throttle housing is a simple on/off switch; when the control box senses this switch's signal (most likely when the circuit is closed-when the thumb throttle has been released), it tells the carb boxes not to raise the slides AND I suspect it tells the CDI (via the black/white kill wire) not to spark above about 1000-1500 RPM.

 

The switch on the e-brake perch is just like the throttle switch; when the e-brake is engaged (and most likely when the switch is open), the control box won't let the slides raise or RPM to increase.

 

I have no idea how the carb boxes work, never had them on mine so haven't had a chance to crack 'em open and see what's in there.  Their sole purpose from what I can tell is to prevent the slides from raising when they get a signal from the control box on the black/yellow wire.  Looking at the wiring diagram it looks like they aren't independent; both are overridden at once or not at all.

 

So essentially, the system will override throttling if the e-brake is engaged, or if the thumb throttle is released.  Hope that helps man.  BTW that control box makes a handy doorstop heh.

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The boxes on the carbs have a switch in the also. That's how the tors knows the relationship of the carb slide to the throttle. Something as simple as one of the switches in the boxes on the carbs will fool the tors into thinking the slide is sticking open now allow the engine to rev. Not rev as in ignition.

 

Good right up Ben

[bansheefreestyler]

if the tors is for not letting the slides go up when the throttle is stuck then how come it still works when you have it pinnned 6th?

[wood]

must be a little slow,don't know what ugg it's the tors system means.what do you want to know.and no with tors removed and little black box unpluged e-brake feature still works.

[DIRTBIKEZ]

Whats all the confusion about? The most "important" function of the system is if the little switch in the thumb throttle tells the black box you're off the gas but the switches on top of the carbs says you're on it, it'll rev down.

[SDD]

Its funny, people ask questions then flame your answers. Why don't you stop calling names and use the search button like you should have done in the first place. IDIOT. Do us a favor, take the ends of the TORS and cross em stick em in your gas tank. See if that works.

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Shee K the reason I asked this question was to not because I didn't know how this system works. I wanted to get stupid replys such as yours. I'm flaming your lame ass reply because I knew you didn't know shit about how the system works. Do you even own a manual? Posts like BenBB's are well thought out and took time. Your reply was just a quick half a min response if that.

[SDD]

The boxes on the carbs have a switch in the also. That's how the tors knows the relationship of the carb slide to the throttle. Something as simple as one of the switches in the boxes on the carbs will fool the tors into thinking the slide is sticking open now allow the engine to rev. Not rev as in ignition.

 

Good right up Ben

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Nice reply Rodney... this pretty much is a simplified answer to how the TORS system works.