97banshee350 Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 i need a new clutch and im thinking of a barnett clutch kit but i never put in a clutch kit before. is it hard and is there anythin i should know before i do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1800bigk Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 i need a new clutch and im thinking of a barnett clutch kit but i never put in a clutch kit before. is it hard and is there anythin i should know before i do it? 348079[/snapback] its very easy, 1. get a clymer manual 2. follow the steps 3. test drive it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stclark816 Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 Id stay away from Barnett with high HP motors. Ive never had luck with them. Clutches are easy to install/replace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixitrod Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 (edited) I've ran a barnett dirt digger for 1.5yrs on a grr 4mm stroker. I thought I had trouble with it in the past and bottom line was my cable. The clutch is in great shape. I do run all 6 heavy duty springs. The cable seemed to pull fine and move fine. I decided to change it before going to glamis just because it was old. I couldn't hardly slide the cable through the sheathing by hand at all. Made a huge difference. Guess the spring were just stiff enough to pull it. Edited April 1, 2005 by fixitrod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2yammy Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 Don't over tighten the bolts on the presure plate very much they wil break the hub. I know l broke my hub when I didn't follow the torque specs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixitrod Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 They break when I do follow the torque specs.. lol. The come out really easy though. If you put a small drill bit on a drill and spin them clockwise from the bottom it'll spin right out the top or vise versa. It's tapped all the way through if I remember right. You can hold the clutch basket still by putting a wrag between the gears. You'll see what I mean when you take it apart. Some people use a penney. I don't trust it. Soak the fibers in oil for 15min you could replace the phillips head case cover screws with stainless allen heads while you are at it Don't forget to adjust the center screw for the clutch !!!!! Use at least 3 heavy duty springs for longer life. All six is better. Make sure you line the arrows up on the pressure plate and the inner hub or it won't seem to go into gear when you put it back togehter. That's all I can think of right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDS2106 Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 when i opened my banshee up to change the clutch i noticed the clutch springs in my banshee were about 1/4 of an inch longer than the ones in the heavy duty kit from ebc.the old clutch fibers must be kevlar or something, they are kinda green colored .are some clutch springs longer then other brands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixitrod Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 If the springs are longer and have more coils with the same thickness wire or thicker they are heavier and stronger. If you didn't mind the clutch pull with them, it may be worth it to put those back in. I don't know about the hd springs that come with an ebc clutch, but the barnett ones aren't to bad. Some clutches are kevlar but not always green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knight_ripper Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 I smoked my clutch out in Oregon dunes. My buddy had a new ebc kevlar spare...so I used it. I didnt have the handy clymers with me ... so I was goin off the written instructions. use 3 stock and 3 aftermarket springs....doesnt much matter which aftermarket. With all 6 aftermarket you will notice a harder pullin clutch. I have a toomey in mine...and that was after smokin a new EBC Kevlar. I didnt adjust the centre screw and align the arrow on top the case. Major fuckup....but the instructions didnt say anything about it. It wasnt untill I got the toomey and it had complete instructions. Now all is good. I turned the shee on her side and I changed it out right there in the dunes....I wouldnt of even had to change out the oil if it wasnt all full of burnt up clutch. but it was cool to change it on the side like that. toomey clutches from now on for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Madd Posted April 2, 2005 Report Share Posted April 2, 2005 I smoked my clutch out in Oregon dunes. My buddy had a new ebc kevlar spare...so I used it. I didnt have the handy clymers with me ... so I was goin off the written instructions. use 3 stock and 3 aftermarket springs....doesnt much matter which aftermarket. With all 6 aftermarket you will notice a harder pullin clutch. I have a toomey in mine...and that was after smokin a new EBC Kevlar. I didnt adjust the centre screw and align the arrow on top the case. Major fuckup....but the instructions didnt say anything about it. It wasnt untill I got the toomey and it had complete instructions. Now all is good. I turned the shee on her side and I changed it out right there in the dunes....I wouldnt of even had to change out the oil if it wasnt all full of burnt up clutch. but it was cool to change it on the side like that. toomey clutches from now on for me. 348324[/snapback] EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED TO ME!! Almost. I bought a barnett (not ebc) and didn't follow my clymers instructions. Like you, It wasn't until I bought the Toomey clutch, that I had complete instructions on lining up the arrow. I've already burned my Toomey up now. It lasted about 8 months, but I was abusing the clutch badly when it fried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogart Posted April 2, 2005 Report Share Posted April 2, 2005 clutches are easy i think never looked at the book or had any instructions.i went with the ebc kit and used all 6 hd springs for my rzbashee.it grabs hard now with no slip at all.just put everything back the way it came out and pay close attention.to set the center screw i just screwed it in till its was touching possibly a little more.the more you tighten the more harder the lever gets to pull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkabina Posted April 2, 2005 Report Share Posted April 2, 2005 i need a new clutch and im thinking of a barnett clutch kit but i never put in a clutch kit before. is it hard and is there anythin i should know before i do it? 348079[/snapback] This will help. http://www.toomey.com/html/clutch_catalog.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILO Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 once you get it a apart, inspect the hub, basket, and pressure plate carefully. my basket fingers were worn noticably, grooved out from the clutch plates riding/wearing on them. my inner hub and pressure plate were full of stress cracks. replaced with a hinson basket and new stocker hub and pp., tusk clutch kit with all 6 hd springs. makes for a little harder pull, but it's tolerable. best advice: get a clymer's and follow it religiously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixitrod Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 Kind of weird hearing tusk and hinson in the same sentence... lol. Hinson makes one of the most expensive baskets out there. There are a lot of companies that baskets too if you need one. Hinson does make a nice product. If the basket has minor grooves you can dremel them smooth. There will be a little slop but it will work smoother. If there are cracks get that thing out of there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILO Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 (edited) Kind of weird hearing tusk and hinson in the same sentence... lol. 349604[/snapback] full hinson set up - $900 my set up - about $600 less started going big with hinson, then found you had to use their 8 plate set up to use all their components. already had the basket on hand, ordered the rest after learning more about how much it would set me back in the end. if my next inspection deems it necessary, i'm gonna break down and finish it out with all hinson parts. Edited April 5, 2005 by MILO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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