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[Holyman]

...Most forums I have been to draw the "Latitude" lline of "general topic" at Religion...Its a topic that very few share the exact same views and at times only ends up creating discontent towards one another.. I simply don't see its place HERE

And here is where BHQ is completely different than "most forums".

We are here to support the ATV sport. BHQ members are not so uptight that they have to get their undies in a twist if someone has a different view than they do. If you had been around more than 5 minutes, you would know that there have been very animated debates over everything from the boost bottle and the AMP link to religion. This does not mean we will not support each other in the sport. Even though I'm confident that 04LE is chock full of crap on his religious beliefs , I am just as confident that if I needed some tech help with my banshee or needed a part for an up coming trip, I could send him an email and he would help me. The same goes for 99.9% of everyone else on this board.

Yeah we argue and sometimes we get mad, but we still support each other. Before we had this "easter" discussion, I rebuilt rj's kicker. {incidentally rj started this thread, not me} When he talked to me on the phone, he called me "sir". I'll tell you and everyone else here, right now, rj is one heck of a nice guy. And he should know that if he or pretty much anyone else here needs anything, I am more than happy to help out. Do we vigorously disagree on religion? No question about that. But are we there to help each other? Without a doubt.

If you find that religion is to sensitive a subject to ever discuss, even among friends, then you might as well go back to those "other" websites that have a zero tolerance policy on religion.

Here at BHQ we argue but we still get along. The best friendships are the ones that have been tested under pressure. And you won't find that on "most websites".

So here's to The one, The only BHQ

[cudaz101]

And here is where BHQ is completely different than "most forums".

We are here to support the ATV sport. BHQ members are not so uptight that they have to get their undies in a twist if someone has a different view than they do. If you had been around more than 5 minutes, you would know that there have been very animated debates over everything from the boost bottle and the AMP link to religion. This does not mean we will not support each other in the sport. Even though I'm confident that 04LE is chock full of crap on his religious beliefs , I am just as confident that if I needed some tech help with my banshee or needed a part for an up coming trip, I could send him an email and he would help me.  The same goes for 99.9% of everyone else on this board.

Yeah we argue and sometimes we get mad, but we still support each other. Before we had this "easter" discussion, I rebuilt rj's kicker. {incidentally rj started this thread, not me} When he talked to me on the phone, he called me "sir". I'll tell you and everyone else here, right now, rj is one heck of a nice guy. And he should know that if he or pretty much anyone else here needs anything, I am more than happy to help out. Do we vigorously disagree on religion? No question about that. But are we there to help each other? Without a doubt.

If you find that religion is to sensitive a subject to ever discuss, even among friends, then you might as well go back to those "other" websites that have a zero tolerance policy on religion.

Here at BHQ we argue but we still get along. The best friendships are the ones that have been tested under pressure. And you won't find that on "most websites".

So here's to The one, The only BHQ 

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I can appreciiate the constructive reply without totally agreeing...I will and do continue to frequent the other forums as well as the BHQ.

 

Maybe change the title to Christmas and let it go on for another 7+ months...Whatever...

 

 

Brad

[banshee04le]

Cudaz, I don't understand guys like you. What bugs you so much, the topic title, because that is all that you are subjected to. If you decide the thread is not for you, then don't look back in on it. Seems like common sense to me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Holyman]

Cudaz, I don't understand guys like you. What bugs you so much, the topic title, because that is all that you are subjected to. If you decide the thread is not for you, then don't look back in on it. Seems like common sense to me. 

WOW

04 and I agree on something.

 

WHile we're at it again 04, here's a thought about salvation for you from the King James version... Mt 16:24-27 24 Then'G5119 said'G2036 Jesus'G2424 unto his'G848 disciples,'G3101 If any'G1536 man will'G2309 come'G2064 after'G3694 me,'G3450 let him deny'G533 himself,'G1438 and'G2532 take up'G142 his'G848 cross,'G4716 and'G2532 follow'G190 me.'G3427

25 For'G1063 whosoever'G3739, 302 will'G2309 save'G4982 his'G848 life'G5590 shall lose'G622 it:'G846 and'G1161 whosoever'G3739, 302 will lose'G622 his'G848 life'G5590 for my sake'G1752, 1700 shall find'G2147 it.'G846

26 For'G1063 what'G5101 is a man'G444 profited,'G5623 if'G1437 he shall gain'G2770 the'G3588 whole'G3650 world,'G2889 and'G2532 lose'G2210 his own'G848 soul?'G5590 or'G2228 what'G5101 shall a man'G444 give'G1325 in exchange'G465 for his'G848 soul?'G5590

27 For'G1063 the'G3588 Son'G5207 of man'G444 shall'G3195 come'G2064 in'G1722 the'G3588 glory'G1391 of his'G848 Father'G3962 with'G3326 his'G848 angels;'G32 and'G2532 then'G5119 he shall reward'G591 every man'G1538 according'G2596 to his'G848 works.'G4234

A couple things you should notice here... #1 a faithful person is rewarded according to his works

#2 the word translated soul {G5590} is also the same word used for life {G5590}

If you can't read around the references... (Matthew 16:24-27) 24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

[KGL]

(Imagine this scrolling up your screen)

 

BIBLE WARS ... "Revenge of the Scripts"

 

All I can say is : man you guys like to type !!

it is nice to see an ongoing

battle that isnt about politics... Holyman

does it all.

 

 

oh , and cudaz... you are so going to hell now

Edited May 20, 2005 by KGL

[Holyman]

All I can say is : man you guys like to type !!

it is nice to see an ongoing

battle that isnt about politics... Holyman

does it all.

Doin' the things you love makes life an awesome thing.

 

oh , and cudaz... you are so going to hell now

 

[banshee04le]

I already told you Dave, that amazingly we went at it EXACTLY 50days, from March 27th which was Easter (which you tried to speak against) until May 16th which is the last time that the Holy Spirit moved in this thread IMO.

On the Pentecost after the resurrection of Jesus (50 days from the Passover in which He was crucified), the Holy Spirit, according to the Acts of the Apostles, descended on the disciples and gave them the power of speaking in such a way that people of different languages could understand them.

For me, that says that it is over. The ministry of the Gospel to the Gentiles has been accomplished through the Holy Spirit by virtue of our dichotomy. Good job Dave.

[Holyman]

I already told you Dave, that amazingly we went at it EXACTLY 50days, from March 27th which was Easter (which you tried to speak against) until May 16th which is the last time that the Holy Spirit moved in this thread IMO.

    On the Pentecost after the resurrection of Jesus (50 days from the Passover in which He was crucified), the Holy Spirit, according to the Acts of the Apostles, descended on the disciples and gave them the power of speaking in such a way that people of different languages could understand them.

  For me, that says that it is over.  The ministry of the Gospel to the Gentiles has been accomplished through the Holy Spirit by virtue of our dichotomy.  Good job Dave.

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Did you live under the power lines or eat alot of paint chips as a kid?

You really should put down the doobie and step away from the computer.

Are you saying the ministry to the Gentiles was finished at Pentecost? Or are you doing your "drop the bible on the table and mix in random words you got from your bible word of the day calendar" form of bible lernin'?

[banshee04le]

You wouldn't know the Holy Spirit if it slapped you in the face Dave.

Send me an email if you wish to continue no2banshee@cs.com

And in case you weren't aware, everytime you are one upped, which has

been frequently in this thread, you resort to childish and derogatory

comments. You think that you are so much smarter than everyone else,

but I would not hesitate to match my intellect and wit with you any day of

the week. Besides that, I'm better looking and my banshee is way faster

than yours. Want to arm wrestle?

[Holyman]

... you resort to childish and derogatory

comments.

... I'm better looking and my banshee is way faster

than yours. Want to arm wrestle?

 

I would not hesitate to match my intellect and wit with you any day of

the week.

Proverbs 3:5,6... 5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

7 Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.

 

And here is what you have done to me... 2Cor 12:6-10 6 For though I would desire to glory, I shall not be a fool; for I will say the truth: but now I forbear, lest any man should think of me above that which he seeth me to be , or that he heareth of me.

7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.

8 For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me.

9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

10 Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.

Now in English... (2 Corinthians 12:5-10) .

[banshee04le]

Here is some interesting insight on varying philisophical ideologies:

 

Scientism is an ideology grounded on the assumption that facts can be distinguished from values. Facts, it is claimed, are derived from the scientific method, whereas values are the products of uncritical human constructions (opinions) such as religion, tradition , or prejudice. The fact/value distinction assumes that reality can be known by fragmenting its parts from the universal whole. Once separated from the whole and viewed as objects, facts are classified as empirical knowledge. According to the tenets of scientism, if human reason is liberated from the constraints of values and properly grounded in scientific method, it is capable of discovering empirical truths instrumental not only to material progress, but to political and social advancement. Such progress is therefore predicated on the belief that the scientific method provides a universal standard for the discovery of truth. Scientifically derived truth, then, provides a body of knowledge that forms the foundation of political and social consensus. All humans are assumed to be rational and equally capable of both employing the scientific method and understanding the knowledge that results from its use.

 

In this scheme, conflict in human society is caused by mere differences of opinion; a confrontation of values rather than facts. The scientific method eliminates such conflicts because it provides a "scientific" understanding of reality on which rational individuals agree. Once the scientific method is widely utilized, differences of opinion , and the corresponding political and social conflict that is caused by them, wither away. Disagreement and conflict disappear in the same way as they do among mathematicians who present mathematical proofs. Given an accepted body of mathematical principles and methods, the proof either works or fails. In the process of discovering mathematical truth, there is no place for opinion or subjective judgment. The structure of mathematical reality, represented by its principles and laws. is fixed. Erroneous application of principle is possible, but that is not the same as an opinion that causes disagreement. Once the truth or failure of the proof is established, there is no legitimate basis for disagreement. Although the methodological approach may be appropriate for mathematics and the mathematical sciences, its application to the human sciences has been the subject of intense debate.

 

Francis Bacon, Thomas Hobbes, and Rene Descartes influenced the early development of positivism in important ways. Bacon advocated the scientific method as the foundation for a new civilization. Proper use of the scientific method would purge the mind of personal unscientific influences and lead to the acquisition of knowledge. Bacon provided much of the theoretical foundation for the scientific revolution. Its social and political implications, while recognized by Bacon, were more explicitly developed by Hobbes and such later positivists as Saint-Simon and Auguste Comte. The common ideological thread of the positivist movement is belief that the scientific method will lead to human domination of nature and that subsequent social, political, and economic transformation is inevitable.

 

Yet the historical development of positivism was more complex. As developing positivism fueled industrialization, material progress occurred, but the anticipated social and moral improvement was illusive. A key cause of the lack of moral progress was illusive. A key cause of the lack of moral progress was positivism

[txblueshee]

Who farted?

 

 

 

Mike

[Holyman]

04 if you're gonna copy and paste at least make it from the bible instead of your religious commentary websites.

You've quoted Collosians 2:8 in the past... 8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

And then you say this...

Here is some interesting insight on varying philisophical ideologies:

Why are you even bringing that up? Are you trying to start something with Scientologists? I guess I did leave them out of my list of people you could talk bad about.

Maybe you should get your own thoughts together first. How about this... read the bible all the way thru once. Then maybe you'll get a better understanding of what you're trying to talk about.

 

Who farted?

You smelt it, you delt it

[banshee04le]

04 if you're gonna copy and paste at least make it from the bible instead of your religious commentary websites.

You've quoted Collosians 2:8 in the past... 8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

And then you say this...

Why are you even bringing that up? Are you trying to start something with Scientologists? I guess I did leave them out of my list of people you could talk bad about.

Maybe you should get your own thoughts together first. How about this... read the bible all the way thru once. Then maybe you'll get a better understanding of what you're trying to talk about.

 

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WOW, your lack of intellectual AND spiritual development astounds me for the "office in which you boast". Your problem is that you have your eye so close to the microscope that you miss what is going on around you. That, coupled with your egocentric nature, makes you a very short sighted and spiritually inept soul IMO.

[Holyman]

coupled with your egocentric nature, makes you a very short sighted and spiritually inept soul IMO.

How can a floaty ghosty thing that lives on after you die be inept? Or are you now accepting the fact that the soul IS the person.

BTW have you figure dout what Raca is yet?