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I have an 01 Banshee, its bored over one size up from stock, has a cool head, port and pollish, reeds, boost bottle etc. before i did the engine work I changed the stock gearing and went down one tooth on the front sprocket and up one on the rear(Use to a 250R). I run both 10 paddle haulers and sand stars depending on conditions. My bike runs perfect with the exception of its too low geared now and I am having trouble keeping the wheels on the ground. I like to drag race, but I also like to jump and trail ride (on the dunes only) my swing arm is stock, I need some advice on gearing, tires and swing arm length. I also need some clarification on what exactly a -2 swing arm is? Does that mean 2 in shorter or longer?

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If you're running sand, you want to go longer, if running dirt you want to go shorter.

 

Sand grabs a heck of a lot harder than dirt.

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Jiberish! :ph34r: hehe...that tends to be the trendy thing to do. :P I ride mostly sand & run a -2 swingarm, also +2+1 a-arms & love it. No complaints and/or regrets. Unless I go drag, I'll never go over stock. Now I run 8paddles vs. 9paddles with my stock arm. I've never tried anything other than a +2 arm, and it wasn't on my quad so I can't talk negative about that at all & won't. It was a nice ride, but not what I was looking for. Just MHO...suits my style of riding. :shrugani:

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Jiberish!  :ph34r:  hehe...that tends to be the trendy thing to do.  :P  I ride mostly sand & run a -2 swingarm, also +2+1 a-arms & love it.  No complaints and/or regrets.  Unless I go drag, I'll never go over stock.  Now I run 8paddles vs. 9paddles with my stock arm.  I've never tried anything other than a +2 arm, and it wasn't on my quad so I can't talk negative about that at all & won't.  It was a nice ride, but not what I was looking for.  Just MHO...suits my style of riding. :shrugani:

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what is the advantage of running a -2 swing arm in the sand; what kind of gearing do you run. thanks for the reply.

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I have an 01 Banshee, its bored over one size up from stock, has a cool head, port and pollish, reeds, boost bottle etc.  before i did the engine work I changed the stock gearing and went down one tooth on the front sprocket and up one on the rear(Use to a 250R).  I run both 10 paddle haulers and sand stars depending on conditions.  My bike runs perfect with the exception of its too low geared now and I am having trouble keeping the wheels on the ground.  I like to drag race, but I also like to jump and trail ride (on the dunes only) my swing arm is stock, I need some advice on gearing, tires and swing arm length.  I also need some clarification on what exactly a -2 swing arm is? Does that mean 2 in shorter or longer?

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I run a 13/41 in the dunes and with my mods it's decent gearing. I've also got a +4 swinger and for my style of riding it's perfect. It can be a bitch at times in tight trails but other than that its a good all around set up. Just my .02 but 10 paddle Haulers may be a bit much for your mods, unless they aren't the Extremes. If they are regular Haulers i'd say you've got a pretty good set up.

 

Don't know what to tell you on the -2, i've never ridden a shee in the sand with one. I would imagine it would be fun though....

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Pretty much what OR said...suits my style. I like to ride technical shit, tight trails, through trees & shit, and I like to air it out here & there. It's very predictable when airborne now & I feel like I have more control over both the banshee & my fate. :D It's all good, there's nothing better than a banshee in the sand no matter how long or short it is. :headbang: If possible, try both & see what you think for yourself. Currently I'm running the same gearing I ran with my stock arm: 13:41. That is soon to be changed & is wwwwwaaaaayyy overdue, I'm probably going to go up to a 15 in the front, may come down a tooth in the back...not quite sure yet. It's still much better than before eventhough my gearing has been neglected since I've had my -2 arm. :shootself:

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thats the whole fun with a 13 tooth! just lean forward more...lol

 

leaning forward will help alot of course...

 

getting a -2 will make your problem worse Getting a +2 will help alot.

 

Do not get a -2 for sand, if anything run stock over a -2 you will have better controll.

 

I'll tell you that most of your problem is from the 10 paddle haulers. that is WAY to much paddle for a stock/piped banshee, especialy with a stock swingarm!. They will make you wheelie like crazy and slow you down at WOT.

 

I would not like your setup at all...Your problem is probably alot worse when running the haulers huh?

 

you could put the Sand Stars on and get a +2 swingarm and that will help you keep the front end down. Your gearing is also affected by tire size,

 

Trouble with switching to a 14 tooth is that you have too much paddle for a 14 tooth...

 

Better setup is some 7-8 paddle extremes (Probably 7 if your mostly stock) 20-10-10, +2 or +4 swinger (its a bit long at +4 for duing vs drag racing) and keep the 13 onthe front so you can pull 4th gear up the steep side of olds (maybe you can pull it with a 14 on the front but probably won't be going as fast)

 

When you change the length of the Swinger, you also have to have your shock re-valved for the length of the swingarm and your weight. I recomened a place like TCS to do this service. it makes all the difference in the world.

 

The Advantage of running a -2 in the sand is that you will wheelie like a MoFo!

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