BURKE_DADDY Posted February 8, 2005 Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 (edited) hello, this is my first thread here so be gentle oh what the hell terat me like dirt any way i just bought a banshee, hold the applause but it would not start by kicking it over so we pulled started itand it fired up. went out and tryed to kickstart it again and nothing.i then pulled the spark plugs and they appeared to be fouled.i put some fresh plugs in the next day and bam fired first kick.so i go to start it this weekend since the wheather was decent and nothing again. pulled started and fired right up.i take it for the first ride it dies in under 5minutes.kicked it 2 times nothing wait 1 minute while im trying not to freak out kick it bam fires right up. i drove it another 5minutes does it again but doesnt totaly dies just boged down and then ran fine.i go to stop and adjust my helmet and put on a bandana over my neck, and the banshee will not shut off i try the switch and nothing.so now im really pissed off i pop the clutch to kill the motor. and as a bonus i see the toomeys have burned a hole in the raditor hose.and green shit is spraying everywhere. i get it back and inspect the quad and found these 2 wires just hanging there what are they and where do they go? any ideas?it doesnt have a parking brake, and i think it doesnt have the tors because thered aftermarket carbs i could be wrong.also pulled the plugs today and i could not get spark the motor is fresh just rebuilt here a link to the auction it was in and all the things it has done. thanks for any help or advise you can give me. my banshee Edited February 9, 2005 by BURKE_DADDY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURKE_DADDY Posted February 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 sorry my link and pictures didnt show up heres the link you can copy and paste it http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...TRK%3AMEWA%3AIT sorry about that and ill try and get the pictures of the wires to work also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlnoss Posted February 8, 2005 Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 The first things I notice are big bore, 17cc domes, and advanced timing. What elevation are you riding at, what fuel are you running? Have you checked the compression? Did it overheat bad because of the coolant leak? There are a lot of very sharp Banshee guys out here. I'm sure they will jump in on some of the other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURKE_DADDY Posted February 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 The first things I notice are big bore, 17cc domes, and advanced timing. What elevation are you riding at, what fuel are you running? Have you checked the compression? Did it overheat bad because of the coolant leak? There are a lot of very sharp Banshee guys out here. I'm sure they will jump in on some of the other things. 319278[/snapback] no i dont think it overheated there was coolant spraying out of the small hole it burned in the hose but i shut it down as soon as i saw it and had the bike towed back to my house.the elevation is around 5000 feet or so.i dont have the tools to check compression but ill ask around and see if any of my buddys have a tester,i saw one at walmart are they any good the cheap ones?im running the highest octane at the chevron staion 91or 93 i think?im running klotz r-50 premix at 40 to1 oh and when i said 5 minutes didnt even get half that time im just used to saying five minutes as a short period of time lol but i warmed the bike up longer than i rode it and there was no coolant leak when i took of. thanks for the reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNBRAD Posted February 8, 2005 Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 Well as far as your previous symptoms, sounds like a typical dirty/clooged fuel filter. Just sitting a few minutes your bowls will fill back up and then when it's running the line isn't able to keep up and it dies. Normally when your run the carb bowls dry it will be harder than normal to start. This is where I would look first. As far as yor spark goes, does this mean it's still not starting at all now? Can't pull it and fire it up? Let us know on that issue and what color are those wires? Black and orange by chance? Give us a liitle more info and should be able to get you running again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stclark816 Posted February 8, 2005 Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 Did you say you keep fouling plugs? Are you too rich? What's ur jetting like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer Posted February 8, 2005 Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 compression check for sure. steer clear of cheap testers. that is a prime example of you get what you pay for. get a craftsman or, if money allows, get one from a tool truck. something like a snap on, mac, or matco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURKE_DADDY Posted February 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 Well as far as your previous symptoms, sounds like a typical dirty/clooged fuel filter. Just sitting a few minutes your bowls will fill back up and then when it's running the line isn't able to keep up and it dies. Normally when your run the carb bowls dry it will be harder than normal to start. This is where I would look first. As far as yor spark goes, does this mean it's still not starting at all now? Can't pull it and fire it up? Let us know on that issue and what color are those wires? Black and orange by chance? Give us a liitle more info and should be able to get you running again. 319295[/snapback] i pulled the plugs and put the spark plug near the frame to see if i had spark and i didnt see any spark when kicking the bike over.i havent tryed to pull start it since then. heres some pics of the wires sorry if you cant really see them that well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURKE_DADDY Posted February 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 heres the picture i hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURKE_DADDY Posted February 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 heres the picture i hope. 319316[/snapback] pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRed350x Posted February 8, 2005 Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 Not sure, but those wires look like the ones that used to hook into the tors system or to your lights? Anyone else think those look familiar. I took the lights off my bikes and got rid of the tors system and I think I cut some plugs similar to those off... 17cc seems like it would give you really high compression to just be running pump gas, you might consider mixing 50/50 race gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURKE_DADDY Posted February 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 Not sure, but those wires look like the ones that used to hook into the tors system or to your lights? Anyone else think those look familiar. I took the lights off my bikes and got rid of the tors system and I think I cut some plugs similar to those off... 17cc seems like it would give you really high compression to just be running pump gas, you might consider mixing 50/50 race gas. 319330[/snapback] yeah that was one of the things on my check list when i was looking for a banshee to buy is that it ran on pump gas.the owner told me it would and when it is running it seems to run fine but then again i didnt even come close to unleashing all the power ther banshee had to offer. im not sure i could hear knocking and pining on a 2stroke?when i check the compression how much should the banshee have?at what compression do i need to run race gas? thanks for the help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNBRAD Posted February 8, 2005 Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 Yea you do need to check your compression. 17cc domes and 5k elevation in theory should be around 150psi with a standard bore. Though you have a larger bore which will further increase compression. So if your compression is close to 160 I would run 50/50 race/pump gas mix. Those are wires for your TOR's too. Make sure the wires to the black box above the left exhaust just behind the radiator is unplugged also. Don't ride it or do anything till u check that compression and get back to us. If it's above 160 get some race gas in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURKE_DADDY Posted February 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 (edited) Did you say you keep fouling plugs? Are you too rich? What's ur jetting like? 319299[/snapback] i dont know what jets are in there. i havent ran the bike long enough to foul a plug. the ones that came with the bike were dirty and when i put the new plug in and it fired first kick i assumed the old ones were fouled but its doing it with new spark plugs now. Edited February 8, 2005 by BURKE_DADDY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blk02banshee Posted February 8, 2005 Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 Now, this is just a thought, so hear me out. The gas cap has a vent in it. make sure it's not PLUGGED. That's happened to me more than once on other bikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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