rptorman Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Look at a little Raptor 80( Badger) And then you will know why A-Arms are so important. Anything else would be crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Look at a little Raptor 80( Badger) And then you will know why A-Arms are so important. Anything else would be crap. 318271[/snapback] its called leading arm suspension if im not mistaken. it wont work for long travel (more than 2 inches) because the forces of hitting bumps at speed will stiffen the suspension to the point where its like having none at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SICK BOY Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 (edited) Don't listen to these guys flaming you.Pull your upper arms off when you huck your backflip,the wieght you save should be enough to get you a full rotation. Edited February 6, 2005 by SICK BOY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red ore Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 try the bottoms actually, they are a lot heavier then the uppers. If you tighten the ball joint REALLY tight, I bet it will still work the same... LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHead Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 why does it make you sad??? am i right or way off.... 318269[/snapback] The reason it makes me sad, it that you're half right and half wrong with each statement that you made. For instance, the upper A-Arm can keep the tire straight, but it does that through a matrix of four intersecting arcs. Which means that depending on the design, the upper A-Arm can make the tire do whatever you want. The mini-quads that I have seen, move their tires in an arc whose axis is about the inboard suspension mounting point. This isn't a weak design necessarliy, but it can be a poor design as with very short lower arms, the acceptable range of camber gain and loss is very small (about 1"-2"). To comment on somebody else's opinion that a Chapman strut suspension cannot be high performance or long travel, this is simply not true. An example would be a SCORE buggy with a Chapman or trailing arm suspension, but yet mysteriously do not have an overly large strut or shock. These cars have between 12"-18" of travel and handle very high G (up to 10 G's) bump loading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheefreak Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 if you take the shocs and all parts off so that the arms move freely... on the a arm quad... the tire will move somewhat straight up and down... on a mini it will fold or radius towards the machine.. so unless you have alot of area for a tire to go towards the frame one arm will not work good... i never said the mini was weak... they are actually strong justnot alot of travel for this reason...... but i think firehead explianed it best... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txblueshee Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 hey guys. when i was watching h7 today i was wondering what the point is of the upper a-arm? if it wasnt there couldnt the quad be a bit lighter and such? 318142[/snapback] You didn't just... no way.... how are you still alive? Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2kbanshee9187 Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Don't listen to these guys flaming you.Pull your upper arms off when you huck your backflip,the wieght you save should be enough to get you a full rotation. 318449[/snapback] Ya let us know how it goes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frocashmoney24 Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 well fuck me, i think im gonna go rip off the top aarm all together, saw the spindle in half and see how it turns out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheefreestyler Posted February 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 why are you guys all flaming me? i was just curious to see what the use of it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHead Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 why are you guys all flaming me? i was just curious to see what the use of it was. 318685[/snapback] I can't speak for anyone else, but I am flaming you because you are "flaming." The use of this all stems from the fact that you were put on earth for our own personal amusement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jinx44 Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 haha no shit. you can get massive travel out of those trucks though, if you like to have 45* of camber change. 318255[/snapback] I had a '68 longbed with a very healthy 429 in it. The first time I took it out after breaking the engine in I thought I would see what it would do in the 1/4. Well, when I launched, the front of the truck lifted. I am not saying the tires came off the ground by no means, just that the front shocks were stretched completely out. The truck had 3.31 gears and the speedo wasn't hooked up so I had know idea how fast I was going. I went a little past the 1/4 mark and at about 6,000RPMs in drive, I was running out of road. The torquey 429 still had the front stretched when I let out of it. The heavy big block dropped the 35 year old, worn out, front suspension extremely fast. That was probably the most scared I have ever been in a vehicle. At well over 100mph my caster/camber angles suddenly change drastically. I started darting all over the road and was just waiting for it to go sideways and start flipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red ore Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 I had a '68 longbed with a very healthy 429 in it. The first time I took it out after breaking the engine in I thought I would see what it would do in the 1/4. Well, when I launched, the front of the truck lifted. I am not saying the tires came off the ground by no means, just that the front shocks were stretched completely out. The truck had 3.31 gears and the speedo wasn't hooked up so I had know idea how fast I was going. I went a little past the 1/4 mark and at about 6,000RPMs in drive, I was running out of road. The torquey 429 still had the front stretched when I let out of it. The heavy big block dropped the 35 year old, worn out, front suspension extremely fast. That was probably the most scared I have ever been in a vehicle. At well over 100mph my caster/camber angles suddenly change drastically. I started darting all over the road and was just waiting for it to go sideways and start flipping. 318826[/snapback] not fords greatest design or idea...HUH!?! lol sounds like a good time until you lifted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUSH THE THROTTLE Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 At well over 100mph my caster/camber angles suddenly change drastically. I started darting all over the road and was just waiting for it to go sideways and start flipping. 318826[/snapback] I wonder why?? I had a '68 longbed with a very healthy 429 in it. Not exactly a vette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banshdog Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Shoudnt you be practicing or something!! 318156[/snapback] you have no business on a quad. 318223[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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