best exhaust for me?HELP!

[dawgfan]

I Just bought my 1st Shee and love it! Have to admit that I expected a little more power, but it's all stock, so still has plenty of potential. I am pipe shopping and need an idea of whats best for me. I quess my type of riding is best described as a little of everything except dunes, as I am in the southeast, don't see many dunes. I ride mainly woods, clay pits, hill climbing, and mx. With the occassional drag to shut up my big mouth 4-stroke riding friends!

I plan to purchase a package deal with the pipes,silencers,boost bottle, reeds, and air filter all included. I was planning to go with Fattys, but am hearing about how bad the top end is with these pipes. I think a good mid pipe would best fit me, but as I mentioned before, I am constantly surrounded by 4-strokes(450R's,craptors,polaris's, and tricked out EX's). I can't afford to sacrifice any top end and give them an edge, they are already lined up tp try me, I've been a little hesitant since I am all stock!

That being said, now I am considering Toomey or Rockets. I don't plan to tear into my motor until I have to, or at least next winter when I have the down time. So any ideas on which would better suit my needs now with the stocker, and still have room to grow later with the engine mods? Don't want to have to swap pipes once I tear into her. Is there really that much difference between T-5's and T-6's? And will the Rockets kill my trail riding and hill climbing ability? Thanks in advance for the help!

[RNBRAD]

Well from my experience, the fatties would benefit your riding style the most out of all those pipes you mentioned. You will gain plenty of top-end with them, not as much as the others but you won't sacrifice any low to mid like you will with the other pipes. Believe me, the fatties are a great all around pipe for just about anything. They flat out rip and sound great also. The only downfall of the pipe is their finish. They tend to rust over time and need extra care and attention.

 

The T5 and T6 are both great pipes, differences are subtle with a slight gain in top end with the T6. This is on a stock ported motor though. If you plan on porting then go with the T5's. Fatties also work great with porting as well as the rockets.

 

For lugging around hills and stop and go riding the fatties will be the best. The other pipes will require some timing advance and higher compression to maintain the low to mid the fatties will provide. Though the fatties will never have the top end that these pipes can provide. So it's a give and take and the decision is yours. It's never an easy one and I wish that we could have it all. Also if you decide on a top end pipe, take a look at Trinity's. They are costly but you can get a BHQ member discount through rocketpig. I can't say enough good things about that pipe, but you will be in the same boat as the toomey's or rockets for low to mid.

[bigboybanshee]

I was gonna say damn near the same thing as RNBRAD....he said it better though

[sredish]

Guess I'll add my 2 cents also. The fatties do NOT have a bad top end, they actually rev up pretty good. While they're not CPIs or Rockets in the top end, they have a great low to mid pull and have plenty of top to get the job done.

 

Rockets are not something you'd want if your running trees or mx, and I'd personally advise against the Toomey series either for woods or mx. Get yourself a set of Fatties and be done with it, you have no idea how good it'll feel to rip the throttle open on that bad boy with a set of Fatties. The Fatties only get better with portwork. As you break into the motor, they'll handle the extra power with grace.

 

If I can stick my neck out a little further and say, don't buy one of the package deals until after you compare the items and prices on everything including buying them seperately. You don't need a boost bottle, they're a waste of money.

 

What you want is:

 

FMF Fatty Pipes

VForce Reeds

Pro Design ProFlow kit w/ your choice of filter.

 

That's what you want. If the package kit has that at a good price get it, if not, buy those items seperately, even if you have to wait on the reeds until a little later.

 

If you settle for something instead of buying what you should've to begin with, you'll always end up getting it sooner or later anyways, so save yourself from buying stuff twice and get what I mentioned above. We've all done it, I promise you.

 

Scott

[Yaxy]

100 % agree with Sredish on his list and the other guys on Fatty's , I have FMF (Gold series ) on my 89 and the low end with Sredish mods are great. Very rarely have to use the clutch to get moving. Hit the gas and hang on the low end and mid is great. From my experience the FMF have good rev on top but probably not as much pull as a REV pipe. They are more of a 0-60 mph hour pipe then hold it wide open for 10 seconds and slowly go faster. They are more of a faster you shift the faster you go pipe. I like them espceially for fire roads and traill riding, you can ride a gear high hit the gas and gone, you do not have to shift a zilllion times. Ride the shee just like 4-stroke in the woods.

 

I spent several month last years researching this topic, looking for new pipes for my next shee and of the 20 plus manufacturers FMF I felt was the best all around pipe period, Plus thery are reasonalby priced.

 

Chris

[dawgfan]

Thanks for the help guys, quess my 1st instinct was right, looks like Fatty's for me. I just have to say for the record "Damn those Rockets are sick!!!!!!!!!" Keep up the good work.

[banshee76179]

Yeah, What Scott, Said....

[05bansh]

Dawgfan, You be amazed how much just adding pipes and a filter wake up the stock shee. Its a completely different ride after doing those two mods. I just put on my CPI's yesterday and all I have to day is damn!

[fixitrod]

And..... for the record, the fatties seem to work real well on my ported stroker. I'm amazed at them at least. They have been a great pipe since it was stock.

[locogato11283]

i would go for t5s myself. stay away from t6s unless you plan on staying stock forever. i have rockets and they are more of a mid to top end pipe. you will lose some in the midrange with rockets versus t5s. we tried it with my bros bike and it def lost. i think the bottom was a little stronger tho. dont know much about the fmf, i have never run them. i kinda always thought that toomey made good pipes that worked well with just about anything so thats the route ive always gone.

[randelator]

go with ptr hi rev very nive mid to top end power

[kw04]

i have a 400 stroker ported polished also with fatties and now that the jetting is finally good it hauls balls.

[Banchetta]

I'd get the PTR mids, they have more low end then the fatties and pull way harder on top than the stock. Great all around pipe. Easy to work on the motor and spark plugs. Have more torque than other pipes so you can gear them higher and still maintain as much top end speed as the high revs giving you broader power throughout the gears...I'd choose the SST's next, then the Bills or Fatties for your type of riding...Just get the pipes and filter w/ flange....

[Bansheerider29x]

Fattys all the way!

[Ducman]

I second banchettas choises, ptr mids - one of the best looking pipes imo, and then FMF SST's. In my experience with rockets on a stock port motor as long as you stay in slightly higher rpms when cruising around you won't miss any bottom end, just tons more mid and top. If you are just putting around and suddenly give it a bunch of throttle you will get a little bit of lag getting on the pipe down low in the R's compared to FMFs. If your riding in wide open places then a top end pipe will kick ass but if you are in super tight terrain in 1rst and 2nd gear alot then a bottom end pipe will make riding the shee a lot more simple.

 

I have seen package deals where you save a fair amount of $'s from buying a bunch of stuff at once, so you may do good going that route. Rocky mountain has free shipping on all exhaust if you just want pipes, no package deal.