NYCBanshee7 Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 I'm in the market for suspension. I am going to puchase +2 +1 A-Arms. I really can't afford Elka's, so I am going to go for Works. Im going to set them up for MX 160 lbs. What is the difference between Dual Rate and Triple. I want something for my banshee that won't raise the ride height. What shocks are better for a Banshee for MX. Thanks, Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowpokebanshee Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 I am running works dual rates w/out rezervoirs, they are great, huge difference over stock. and cool thing if later you think you need the reservoirs, you can add them...I rode a friends bike w/triple rate shocks, it seemed better, but he also had +2 arms, where I do not...anything is better than stock... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BdBanshee Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 I used to have dual rate w/rezzies, now have triple rate w/rezzies & +2 +1 arms. It's much better now but hard to tell what it would be like without the new arms. Seems like you can't feel the little stuff anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CombatTalon2 Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 I used to have dual rate w/rezzies, now have triple rate w/rezzies & +2 +1 arms. It's much better now but hard to tell what it would be like without the new arms. Seems like you can't feel the little stuff anymore. 304326[/snapback] I went from stockers on +2+1 Arms, to Tripple Rate Works shocks, love the differance! Dont know how much differance you would be able to tell between dual or tripple rates, but i really like the feel of my tripples! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshee17Racing Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 (edited) I use to have Works triple rates w/rezzies on stock arms and now have TCS duals on +2+1. I really loved my works compared to stock shocks, but I started to feel that they were too soft for me. I really like the TCS more, but Works will easily get the job done. The triple rates have that extra spring that supposedly(going by what I'm told) compresses going through the smaller stuff. And ride height should be determined by what you have the shock valved for. I had a good ride height with the triple rates and they were valved for MX. I would personally go with dual rates w/rezzies. Edited January 11, 2005 by Banshee17Racing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNEDEMON Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 ride height should be determined by what you have the shock valved for.305161[/snapback] No, no, no! Just to clear this up, ride height is determined by the spring(s) rate, not the valving. The shocks valving is what controls the spring rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshee17Racing Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 Sorry, wasn't completely sure that was true...just knew that ride height can be made to what the rider wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUSH THE THROTTLE Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 No, no, no!Just to clear this up, ride height is determined by the spring(s) rate, not the valving. The shocks valving is what controls the spring rate. 305196[/snapback] Class is in session Banshee17Racing, I bet you set your ride height by adjusting the springs didn't ya? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H250RHATER Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 i have white power (WP)shocks there just like elka and axis but cheaper there duel adjustable one for preload and one for landing i liked them for the price i got them off a guy who used them once then totaled his bike at the track (GOING TO FAST INTO A CORNER ) but i only paid 500 for front and back used look on ebay ull find them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCBanshee7 Posted January 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 No, no, no!Just to clear this up, ride height is determined by the spring(s) rate, not the valving. The shocks valving is what controls the spring rate. 305196[/snapback] I really want a shock that will lower my ride height, but still resist bottoming on the big MX jumps. Will TCS dual rates do that? Do they sag just as much as ELKA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blue Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 They will do what ever you have them setup for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNEDEMON Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 I really want a shock that will lower my ride height, but still resist bottoming on the big MX jumps. Will TCS dual rates do that? Do they sag just as much as ELKA? 305452[/snapback] It all depends on the shocks configuration spring wise, best to call Todd direct and discuss what you are tyring to achieve. TCS (909) 245-7484 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bone450 Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 I really want a shock that will lower my ride height, but still resist bottoming on the big MX jumps. Will TCS dual rates do that? Do they sag just as much as ELKA? 305452[/snapback] Well I got TCS zero preload shocks just before the price went up about three or four years ago. I got them for $650 at the time. Let me say that I am not to impressed with the build quality/materials of these compared to today's shocks. The ride quality and suspesion chariteristics are great though. The shocks TCS builds today are much better, but they also cost more. The ones I have are the black lower spring and the gold upper spring. They sag about 3-4 inches is my guess. How far it sags depends on how many spacers are in the top of the shock under the gold spring. I had them set for 160lbs and they will not bottom out when going off big jumps. The zero preload shocks do give a rough ride when trail riding and when going slow. Only get them if it is for racing. I would buy a newer set of TCS shocks myself when I get a new quad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUSH THE THROTTLE Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 The zero preload shocks do give a rough ride when trail riding and when going slow. Only get them if it is for racing. 305831[/snapback] Mine feel like pillows compared to stock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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