nebraskabanshee Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Alright guys, I know you probably won't be happy with this but i need an honest answer. I have a 2001 banshee toomey t5s bored ported some other goodies but no suspension mods. It handles ok but i mainly ride trails and I want something that i can just rip threw them with. I was lookin at a yfz or predator, but then i saw DUNEDEMONS bad ass banshee and made me realize if i should redo my suspensions and keep it. How would it compare to a yfz if my shee had +2 a arms some new shocks axle and swing arm? Or what would you suggest. Please help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 well its gonna handle a ton better. prolly night and day difference. i see that you ride trails mostly. to be honest with you i am faster in the trails on my yfz450 than either of my banshees, alot of that is cuz they are more topend bikes. personally i think its a little easier to work with the 4 stroke in the woods, especially tight trails. if you really like the banshee then stick with it, if you are having doubts borrow a 450 and try it out. you never know until you try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheefreak Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 if you ride trails you don't want a stretched out quad you want it to have stock width.. i know some of the trails i run i can barly get thru with stock arms....wider is better if you are a duner or mxer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05bansh Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 The yfz will definatley be a better trail bike than the shee. Thats why in a year or two I am going to get a yfz, to have the best of both worlds! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireman-hott Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Its all in the setup. I took mine up against anything in the trails and hung like nobodys business. Never met a 450 in the trails though but I'd bet I could have hung. You have to build your bike and motor to your riding style. If your riding trails you want low-mid you dont need top end. T-5s are mid-top with a light switch powerband. Get something with a smoother pull. I always recommend the 2 into 1 pipes alongside a 2 into 1 carb with an mx type porting. If you can afford it a big bore kit will complete the total lowend grunt package. Oh and you have to be half assed in shape enough to be able to throw the bike around. Being as I have to carry 40# extinguishers up and down stairs walk 50-100yds with them I have the endurance and upper/lower body strength to manipulate the bike how I want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Ranger Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 If you're willing to make some adjustments you can make your Banshee run trails with no problem. I actually prefer my Banshee in the tight trails better than my buddies YFZ450. I have mine geared down (12 tooth on front) and then oversized rear tires for clearance. A single carb kit helps a lot also. Running a little higher compression seems to help the low end grunt as well. With my setup I can literaly bog it down to an idle without killing it or needing to slip the clutch. I can also crawl through mud and over rocks that I 4x4 would have to work at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducman Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 If you look at the YFZ's a-arm and suspension geometry it is very similar to the banshee it just has better shocks/springs and components. Also you could do a lot to make your motor hit the band instantly even in low rpms like low/mid pipes and 2 into 1 carb. It'll be as good as a YFZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledofthezep Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 How would it compare to a yfz if my shee had +2 a arms some new shocks axle and swing arm? Or what would you suggest. Night/Day. I couldn't believe the difference in traction, handling on ground & in the air...it just feels like a whole new bike, much more predicatble & more fun to ride IMHO. I went +2+1 arms on the front with cheap works triple rates for now(no complaints), and -2 with the swingarm & got an old ohlins rebuilt rear setup for the -2 arm. One of these days I want to go LT with my front end & elka or axis all around. May even look into FOX's new atv shock line... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNEDEMON Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 May even look into FOX's new atv shock line... 302407[/snapback] Don't bother, way over priced, lackluster results thus far, and fronts only... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledofthezep Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Don't bother, way over priced, lackluster results thus far, and fronts only... 302414[/snapback] I hear ya...but by the time I got the money to do all that, maybe they'll have their shit in gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNEDEMON Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Good point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
. Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 if you ride trails you don't want a stretched out quad you want it to have stock width.. i know some of the trails i run i can barly get thru with stock arms....wider is better if you are a duner or mxer... 302150[/snapback] I thought I was going to have the same problem when I put my +2 arms on and it did take me a week or two to get used to the added width, but once you get used to it its actually a lot faster in the woods. You think the areas are tight with the stock setup, they are a little tighter with the +2 but I can get through them just as quickly as before. Personally I would go with a +1 setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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