RNBRAD Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 I believe the epa has put a 2 stroke ban out as of 2006. That's why the new bass boats are pushing 4 strokes also. 294221[/snapback] And them damn 4 stroke weedeaters. Lawn care will never be the same!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stroke_addict Posted December 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 the E.P.A has not banned 2-strokes directly, most of them will be banned beacuse they don't meet the new requirments, BUT that doesn't mean that 2 stroke technology can evolve to a non-polluting engine, like i said bombardier adopted S.D.I (semi direct injection) into 2 stroke snowmobile engines wich meet E.P.A. standards, so why can't those engines be transported into atv's??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshee~ Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 i have been working with yamaha for several months now designing a replacement quad. all i can say is that it will be faster, lighter and more powerful than the current banshee. thats all i can say for now. 294151[/snapback] I call bs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdog Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 i have been working with yamaha for several months now designing a replacement quad. all i can say is that it will be faster, lighter and more powerful than the current banshee. thats all i can say for now. 294151[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enFORCER Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 And them damn 4 stroke weedeaters. Lawn care will never be the same!! 294320[/snapback] The new E.P.A. standards only apply to engine's over 49cc.... So the weed eaters and chain saws will still be 2 stroke.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyPap Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 Well they've also finally cracked down on oil based paints. What has been produced can be sold next year and that's it. w/ the exceptions of some loop holes like re-labeling some as industrial paints and get this -some oil base paints will be allowed to be sold in "as big as" qts. they say less voc s are released well what if i open 4 qts at the same time. bunch of BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STLBILL Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 Hi everyone: I believe this is the latest and official EPA site pertaining to this discussion. I cannot find anything that specifies a specific engine size rating for weed trimmers and the like. It seems more about what comes out the exhaust pipe: Snowmobiles, Dirt Bikes and ATVs This one cuts through all the crap and puts it in terms we can all understand (PDF format / You will need Adobe Reader to read this): Frequently Asked Questions from ATV Riders The first link - above - has many other links for more specifics. If anyone else has any resources from the proverbial "horses mouth" please share. It seems California standards are going to be much more stringent so this won't mean jack to you guys. California riders should refer to the stricter state statutes (sorry - I don't ride there). Regards, Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philshee Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 I'm guessing they will continue with the four stroke technology and improve on it. There are to many issues against the two stroke machines. Every year you see more and better four stroke motors being engineered and produced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MudSlinger09 Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 nothing can replace the banshee!!!! actually the way it looks , the 450 is gonna be the equivalent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stroke_addict Posted December 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 nothing can replace the banshee!!!! actually the way it looks , the 450 is gonna be the equivalent 294894[/snapback] if that is so then yamaha will leave a void in the atv world, it's a shame that the YFZ450 will fill in the banshee's shoes! that is SAD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallynut Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 Yes it's sad, but that is how life is. Look the the Chevrolet Camaro, where's it on the line up? This is why I bought a new one last year, and may have to buy another one before the end of production/sales. Heck, here in Wisconsin, it's already hard to find new ones. Dealers only want to deal with the latest and greatest 4 pokes. Dealership where I bought mine, as I was leaving, heard the owner tell one of his employees-"thats the last one of those we'll ever have again", apparently they didn't appreciate Banshee's as much as us. One thing that always brings a smile to my face, is how people on the trails always compare 4 pokes to banshee's. That is something that will take a long time to change, the reputation of being fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banshee76179 Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 One thing that always brings a smile to my face, is how people on the trails always compare 4 pokes to banshee's. That is something that will take a long time to change, the reputation of being fast. 294922[/snapback] WORD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whyteboy Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 i was told by the yamaha dealer here in vegas. That the banshee is such a great ATV that they have no reason to stop selling um here..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wassup350 Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Hell if all the other manufacturers are gonna pussy out and make only 4 stroke quads maybe Bombardier will come up with a semidirect injection race quad I'd buy something like that. As for yamaha theres no way in hell they are gonna continue the banshee and blaster or bother advancing their 2 strokes. They allready got rid of all the 2 stroke sleds now its time for the quads. I could be wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick302 Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Yes it's sad, but that is how life is. Look the the Chevrolet Camaro, where's it on the line up? 294922[/snapback] Return of the musclecars! It's happening all over again. First the mustang, then chevy gets in, then a mass of high power, rear drive v-8's rock out. As for the banshee, the 450 is most likely replacing it. However, if a suitable replacement were made, it would have to live up to the banshee. High revving, massive power, sweet sound,etc... 2-stroke is out of the question for emissions and C.A.R.B. and whatnot. I guess an inline four, maybe gsx-r motor? Fuel injected, quick revving, high power four banger four stroke. IMO, the only replacement for a banshee could be somethig as wild as a production gixxer six motor in a yamaframe, maybe even some modern suspension? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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