brock_fuzzy_69 Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 i get to shoot every now and then with a guy who has his own range about 500 yards its nice to be able to stretch out like that since space is kinda tight around here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnhyoung Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 He is one of mine that I affectionatley call "Boomer". http://glocktalk.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=2626821 I admit, I am more of a pistol guy, though. The ranges I normally go to are under 250 yards and shooting rifles at such short distances is just boring. My buddy and I regularly engage targets out to 200 yards with handguns. My pet pistols are my Glock 20 and 29, both in 10mm Auto. I carry one or the other on a daily basis and can make accurate hits out to 200 yards with them. If any of you guys are in the northeast PA area and want to try Boomer out, maybe we can have a little Banshee HQ range session. I'm not tryin to call you a liar, but I would want to see proof that you can accurately hit anything other than the broad side of a barn with a pistol at 200 yds....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRed350x Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Here's some of mine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurbochargedOne Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 (edited) He is one of mine that I affectionatley call "Boomer". http://glocktalk.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=2626821 I admit, I am more of a pistol guy, though. The ranges I normally go to are under 250 yards and shooting rifles at such short distances is just boring. My buddy and I regularly engage targets out to 200 yards with handguns. My pet pistols are my Glock 20 and 29, both in 10mm Auto. I carry one or the other on a daily basis and can make accurate hits out to 200 yards with them. If any of you guys are in the northeast PA area and want to try Boomer out, maybe we can have a little Banshee HQ range session. I'm not tryin to call you a liar, but I would want to see proof that you can accurately hit anything other than the broad side of a barn with a pistol at 200 yds....... Tell you what. If I can get together a few PA HQ members to the range, I'll have them witness it. That work for you? Pistols are MORE than accurate to make hits at that distance, 99 times out of 100, people can't make hits that far out because THEY are not accurate enough. It all boils down to trigger control and sight alignment. If you can get the trigger to break exactly the same every time WITHOUT moving the sights off the target (and you know the proper amount of hold-over) you can make hits with service-size pistols at 200 yards. Ever hear of Bob Munden? He is an exhibition shooter on American Shooter (on the OLN channel). They aired him making hits at 500 yards on a balloon with a S&W 38 Special. Again, sight alingment and trigger control. You aren't the first person to call me out on this. You will certainly won't be the last, either. It's usually the people who can't do it themselves that don't believe it. The look on the faces of these people after they see it done is worth a million bucks. BTW, there are a number of people over at www.glocktalk.com that can vouch for me. Several of us hit the range as a group every month. They've seen me do it on a number of occasions. Like I said, it's not that big of a deal once you know how to do it. Edited October 26, 2004 by TurbochargedOne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUSH THE THROTTLE Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 The ranges I normally go to are under 250 yards and shooting rifles at such short distances is just boring. My buddy and I regularly engage targets out to 200 yards with handguns. My pet pistols are my Glock 20 and 29, both in 10mm Auto. I carry one or the other on a daily basis and can make accurate hits out to 200 yards with them. I can see where that's hard to believe since (I'm assuming) not too many people try to shoot that far and probably don't practice it. I'm going to be checking the sights on my guns possibly this weekend my muzzle loader, 30-06, 12 gauge and possibly my AK, everything but the 12 gauge will be going over 200yds if I had a handgun other than a 22 ruger I'd probably try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurbochargedOne Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 (edited) Agreed. It's normally the people who aren't diehard pistol shooters that don't believe it. Fact of the matter is, if you have the basic pistol shooting skills down, you can do it. If you can see it, you can hit it (within reason). The guns I used (the two 10mms) are far more powerful, shoot flatter and have a much longer sight radius than the little 2" snubby that bob Munden used to hit party ballons at a distance 300 yards greater in length. Makes my 200 yards shots look like childs play. Edited October 26, 2004 by TurbochargedOne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Hi All, I'm the "buddy" that Turbo refers to in his first post. The range that we go to in PA has got 6" wide steel posts set up at 50, 100, and 200 yards that they staple sheets of plastic between to which people can affix targets. For handguns, aiming at the posts themselves is great because you can audibly verify a hit about two seconds after launch at 200 yards. As far as those who question Turbo's ability to smack a 6" wide post at 200 yards with a bone stock Glock (except for night sights and a proper recoil spring) ... I've got $100 that says he can smack that post 2 times out of 10 consistantly with no flyers ... those that miss usually do so by a matter of no more than two inches. Me, I'm good for 1 shot out of 10 (at 200 yards) on a good day, which isn't bad, but isn't great either. Oh, and I've also got money that he can hit the 100 yard posts 6 times out of 10. Keep in mind ... We spent a solid two years pounding ourselves into massive credit card debt on this hobby. We're talking in the hundreds of rounds per week ... no reloads. Then we got a little smarter and discovered a free range in PA, so we started ordering ammo by the cases (note the plural). It is very uncommon for us NOT to go through a thousand rounds in a range visit. I had 14 thousand rounds through my Glock 19 within the first year of owning it, and keep in mind that I was also shooting a .45 Kimber and a 92FS during those times. Then I got a Glock 23 and the 19 sat in the case for a while. The 23 I have now has at LEAST 15 thousand rounds through it while I had the 19, another .45 Kimber, a .40 Kimber, the 92FS, a second 23, a Remington 700VS that had a bent barrell I spent hundreds of rounds on trying to figure out why it didn't shoot straight, and a 1/2 MOA Bushmaster AR (DPMS free floated upper) that saw UNGODLY amounts of brass (I'm on my local gunshops Christmas list, I still get a bottle of wine and a calendar whenver I go). Keep in mind that I can't remember myself going to the range without Turbo, and he's got quite a few years jump on this hobby as well as more range visits than I in my time. Like I said, I've got money on it ... any takers? Bill And please don't start in with the "he's registered himself under another name so that it looks like someone can vouch for him" crap, email me at huss@nyc.rr.com with any questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnhyoung Posted October 27, 2004 Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 he can smack that post 2 times out of 10 consistantly with no flyers 20% is considered accurate he can hit the 100 yard posts 6 times out of 10 60% is better, but as I remember that's barely "D" Keep in mind ... We spent a solid two years pounding ourselves into massive credit card debt on this hobby. We're talking in the hundreds of rounds per week ... no reloads Guess you should of invested in some reloading equipment and saved yourself some serious cash.. I reload my pistol ammo with a Dillon "XL650 progressive" and hand load my rifle ammo with an old but reliable RCBS rock chucker hand press. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oilsmoke Posted October 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 Here is a pic of one of my pistols I aways wanted a 45 acp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurbochargedOne Posted October 27, 2004 Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 (edited) Remember, we're talking about hitting a 6" wide post at 100 and 200 yards, NOT man-size targets. At just 25 yards, the front sight completely covers an 8" bullseye target. You can imagine what's it's like hitting a target just 6" wide at nearly 10 times that distance. We are also talking OFFHAND shooting, NO REST. Edited October 27, 2004 by TurbochargedOne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer Posted October 27, 2004 Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 what does MOA stand for? always wondered that........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurbochargedOne Posted October 27, 2004 Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 Minute Of Angle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurbochargedOne Posted October 27, 2004 Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 Minute Of Angle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brock_fuzzy_69 Posted October 27, 2004 Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 MOA is defined as 1 inch at a hundred yards correct? liek if they clame there rifle shoots whithin 1MOA then all shots are within a 1 inch group fired at 100 yards ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer Posted October 27, 2004 Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 Minute Of Angle. ok, youll have to be a bit more specific, i know nothing about guns at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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