ikikazz Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 got this today from rcmotosports sorry the picture is shitty but used my camera phone got the v-force reeds 3 and some spacers coming tuesday the i will be ready to rip. does anyone have the series 3 reeds yet and if so how did you like them mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 is that a 33 or the 35? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikikazz Posted October 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 i dont understand how 1 33mm carb flows enough fuel and air for a banshee engine. i can maybe understand a 40mm or so but a 33?? i have dual 35mm on mine and just cant even imagine one 33. sredish, what do you have on yours??? someone explain this concept to me please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshee~ Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 i dont understand how 1 33mm carb flows enough fuel and air for a banshee engine. i can maybe understand a 40mm or so but a 33?? i have dual 35mm on mine and just cant even imagine one 33. sredish, what do you have on yours??? someone explain this concept to me please. sredish has got a 35mm....I have know idea how it works im stumped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikikazz Posted October 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 (edited) when 1 piston is up the other is down so when one sucks one blows not suck suck blow blow one cylinder is wanting fuel (fresh air) the other is wantin exhaust (old air)... I think Edited October 4, 2004 by ikikazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomey Banshee Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 I'm with you loco. I have dual 33's and raced a shee with a single 35. We were both ported and polished, he had a dynoport 2 into 1 pipe and I have the CPI's. Wasnt even close. 5-6 bikes everytime, I smoked him. My sons 99, with the stuff listed below, basic bolt ons, is much closer to me than he was, probably 2-3 bikes. We couldnt run the 99 that day though, clutch cable problems. I'm confident he would have smoked him though. 2 is better than 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkabina Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 ikikazz is kinda rite I guess.The reason 1 carb will work is because only one cylinder is drawing fuel and air at a time When the piston comes up.When a piston goes down it is not drawing any air or fuel.Hope that helps ya's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sredish Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 (edited) Yes, I do have a 35, and I think some of my "too rich of a main" issues are on the size of the carb. I believe, if I had a 33, the air would go through the carb with more velocity and it would pull the fuel through better. If both cylinders fired at the same time or close to it, then the cylinders would be fighting for air through one carb and performance would seriosly suffer. But, as I'm sure most of you know, the cylinders fire at 180 degrees, so, while one is sucking in air, the other is throwing out exhaust. With the dual carbs, technically, one carb will pull air, then the other, and back and forth. While at 10,000 rpm it's probably too subtle to ever know, there's a stop and go action. With the single carb, there is a constant flow of air through the carb, no stop and go. Once a dual carbed motor gets going the stop and go is much less, but at slower rpms, it's more prevalent and this causes the low/mid to suffer. Opposite with the single carb, at low rpms and high rpms, there is the constant rush of available air/fuel. The 35 gives plenty of air to the motor. I think my single carb would perform better with a long rod setup, I'd put money on it. There are so many people that knock that setup but have never tried or ridden a single carbed machine. I'll say, I've raced against Toomeys, Pro Circuits, and loads others that were similarly modded and some ported, and I hang right with them. I've raced with them all on sand, in the dirt and it's always pretty even. Sometimes I'm in the lead and puttin some whoopin and sometimes I'm a little behind, you all know that the start has a lot to do, but my single setup has hung in with ANY dual setup that is somewhat similar to mine. Loco, none of my business, but I think if you went to a set of 30's, you'd see more midrange and maybe help the boggy area. Toomey, I'm definitely not trying to put your machine down, but gearing has everything to do with winning drags. Chances are, if that shee had DMCs and a single carb, he's setup for woods/trails and I'd bet money that his gearing is either stock or lowered. You could take a somewhat stock piped machine with 15/41 gearing and whoop the f*ck out of a Stage IV 370 geared to 13/41. Cool, hope I've made sense and not offended anyone. Edited October 4, 2004 by sredish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomey Banshee Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 (edited) Sredish, you make perfect sense with performance aspect of the 1 carb set up and I thought like you, the guy with the 1 carb and 1 pipe was set up for the woods. I run 17/41 and I'm pretty sure he had the stock gearing. I was right with him off of the line, which I fully expected to be in the dust with my gearing and his set up/gearing. As soon as I hit 4th, (I started in second) I was gone, everytime. I'm thinking he should have smoked me off the line, which he didnt. Was his bike performing well? He said it was, new a port and pistons. Was he a good rider? I have no idea. Just giving my experience. Edited October 4, 2004 by Toomey Banshee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sredish Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 (edited) Sredish, you make perfect sense with performance aspect of the 1 carb set up and I thought like you, the guy with the 1 carb and 1 pipe was set up for the woods. Edited October 4, 2004 by sredish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 i just love these types of threads. so filled with useful knowledge. also, hey sredish, you ever thought about puttin your stockers back on and seein what kind of diff it made? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sredish Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 (edited) i just love these types of threads. so filled with useful knowledge. also, hey sredish, you ever thought about puttin your stockers back on and seein what kind of diff it made? stock what, carbs?? i had all my mods that i currently have, except for lighter flywheel and timing, when I went to the single carb, so I had a definite before and after feel and it's infinitely better now. The low end is much stronger, midrange went from strong to explosive, the whole power delivery is much smoother, and I gained overall top end. There's no way dual carbs are going back on my machine. Edited October 4, 2004 by sredish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRMit Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 Sredish is full of useful knowledge yet again! I love my single carb setup, everything Sredish said is the way it is. I should probably be running a 33 myself, but oh well. I'd never go back to stock carbs... I hate those damn Mikunis. Yesterday I rode with a friend of mine that has a 450r. He's a badass veteran rider and I was able to stay on his heels through a tight woods trail. That may not sound like much to anyone else, but it was a big feat to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sredish Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 I was wrong about Banchetta's findings. His findings were that no other dual carb setup will outperform a stock carbed banshee that is stock or stock-piped. He did not say that about a stock-ported banshee. I was searching yesterday for some dyno info and read his post where he was talking about that. Just wanted to rectify my findings. Also, I posted a single carb dyno sheet in the Banshee Repairs forum. Take a look at it fellas and tell me what you think of the curve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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