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Aaight fellas. Some of you know that I run a much larger main than I should, for those that don't know. I have a single 35mm/Trinity manifold setup. I run a 230 main, where the typical jetting for my mods are around 180. I can't even get a richer jet than a 230, so that's how rich that is. My plugs don't look all that bad, it runs pretty good, but I SHOULD NOT be running a 230 main.

 

Now, I ordered all new gaskets from Trinity for my manifold and reed assembly. Tonight, I took my intake assembly apart, took the reeds apart, took off the airbox, just plain disassembled the whole intake for inspection of the gaskets and reeds and everything.

 

Honestly, I couldn't remember if my manifold was the old o-ring style or the new gasket style, and was half hoping to have the oring so I could have an easy fix with the new gaskets. Nope!! All my reeds look good, all the gaskets looked pretty good, and the rubber piece that mounts the carb to the manifold also looks good. So, I have NO IDEA where my leak is coming from. I don't even really know that I have a leak.

 

At idle, I've checked for leaks with propane gas, carb cleaner, and any other thing I could use and can't find a DAMN thing!! I had figured that my leak would occur at higher rpms under a load where the engine is sucking a little harder, but I've never actually located the leak. I still have everything apart, cleaned and more or less readly to put back in, but I really hate to without having found something suspicious. I've been riding like this for 6 months with no ill effect, but this just ain't right.

 

Anyone have any ideas. Also, I took a pic of the intake tract, and there's a lot of black speckles, they don't flake off on my fingers unless I really rub on them or use my nail. Don't know if it's normal or not.

 

Later.

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i've been avoiding a leakdown, but it maybe looming ahead. compression is currently 150 and holds good.

 

if the right crank seal was out, my tranny oil would be seeping down, and if the left side was out, oil would be coming out behind the flywheel and neither is happening, plus one side generally smokes differently than the other, which isn't happening.

 

yeah, the stuff in the tract definitely seems to be paint... just thought it was weird, didn't remember that either.

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That's how i've been dealin with it for the last 6 months or so. But, I'm plannin on a port job and possibly a long rod kit this winter. Then what, only thing to do is to start drillin jets, and that sucks. Can't believe I'd have to drill jets just for a port job.

 

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How is it running with the 180 - 190 range jets? If you had an air leak it wouln't idle right. Rod is on the right track, that set up doesn't produce enough pressure drop(signal) to utilize the 230 main. That is why you aren't seeing a big difference in your plug readings. Go back to the smaller jets and watch your temp gauge, if it stays safe you're aight.

 

Oh BTW that black spec is just where they coated the cylinders from the factory..........

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Let me give you a touch of history. About 8 months ago, I switched to Iridium plugs, and it ran awesome with 180 main, for about 2 months and the power started falling off and the plugs leaned. So, I jetted up a couple sizes and it took me all the way to 230 based off plug readings. About a month ago, I woke up and went back to the BR8's and a lot of the power came back, but I'm still at 230. I was hoping that after the plug change, they'd foul from the large main. They didn't, but power was stronger. The only changes that occured at that time before the power drop was the plugs, so I couldn't have affected anything. Now, once I started jetting, maybe I caused a leak at the intake boot or something but not sure.

 

So, maybe I'll throw in some 180s just to see how it runs, but if 180s are good, I don't see how it would even run with 230s. It's still apart. The bowl screws are damn near stripped from coming in and out, so I'm going to find some allen heads for it first.

 

IMO, the 35 isn't really hard to jet, I've had it for a year, and I had it jetted after 3 or 4 runs and dialed right in, but, maybe there's a velocity problem. Hopefully my porting will take care of that.

 

So, what should I do, just put the damn shit back together and cross my fingers I guess. :confused:

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I'd do a leak down and compression test. Are you sure you just don't need rings or something. If you don't have an air leak maybe you'd benefit from a shorter or skinner needle.

Maybe thats not a bad idea. I've actually thought about that before, and then the thought got lost in my cavernous brain. I have a DGK and if I remember right, DEK is the next skinnier needle. I'll do that, probably order one today.

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I was wrong, I have a DEK. So, taper would be for 1/2 and up but a lot for 3/4 and up so I need the next richest taper, if my brain serves me right. Going from DEK to EEK would be a richer taper. Just ordered an EEK so we'll see. Guess I'll start putting it back together. <_<

 

Also just noticed that I put this in the Repairs when it probably shoulda been in the Jetting. :confused: Whatcha gonna do?

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