bush or kerry

[Brooke]

yea you guys are right, lets just stop all free trade and our economy will be MUCH better....

 

the more pee-on jobs that get sent to china, the more higher paying jobs we can have here.

[Blue Duece]

i still dont understand this selfish attitude people have about helping iraq. why are we so  bad for helping them? we are fine here in america, we are much better off than the iraqis. as the world power that we are, we have a duty to help the little guy in need.

im also for space missions, i think spending money on science is ALWAYS a good thing.

and what about this tax "bullshit" bush is proposing? elaborate.

im all for helping everyone also, but we do need to clean up alot of crap right here in the ol usa, before we go sending people to mars we need to send them to doctors and dentists and shit and how do we even come up with all these assholes that run our country, they all remind me of some sort of bad actor in some shitty movie with a fucked up plot, there all just so full of shit all the news channels have devoted weeks now talking about who got shot, who has medals, he's says im an asshole, well i say he's a prick. both these guys are sounding like little kids pissing over marbles in a sandbox, so which idiot do ya pick? it doesnt matter what you do for a living, the guys doing labor jobs in this country are workin a hell of alot harder than i am, but were all gettin hosed by these bastards, everyone one of us americans, we should give presidents a little 3 month probation, if they dont make some shit happen boot the moron, dont give him 4 years to really f*ck up.......

Edited August 20, 2004 by Blue Duece

[Brooke]

well. i like ol georgie boy, but polittics is politics, it will never change

you know what they say, politics is just showbiz for ugly people.

...you know what else they say...somewhere there is a carnival running itself.

[Meat]

what about this tax "bullshit" bush is proposing? elaborate.

 

Where do you think the money is coming from to fund the Mars mission ? tax money.

 

 

i still dont understand this selfish attitude people have about helping iraq. why are we so bad for helping them?

Its never a bad thing to help the citizens of another country, we are not bad for helping Iraq. I think everyone will agree Iraq is better off without Saddam and even tho its sort of a mess there now, the future for Iraq is bright.

What people are disagreeing with is.....

1. The timing of going to war with Iraq when we just had the terrible 9\11 attacks and there was no solid evidence of Iraq even being involved. The president went on television and said they had these "weapons of mass destruction" in Iraq and Iraq would use them against us by helping out terrorist. The United States has never in its history attacked another country, until we attacked Iraq on the basis on them having WMD, and a few other atrocities Iraq has done. This is leads to the second reason why people are disagreeing with the Iraq war.

2. No WMD's were ever found. NOT EVEN AN EMPTY VIAL, nothing, nada. We've had American and UN inspectors checking Iraq's weaponary ever since the Gulf War and they have never found any WMD's. Do you all remember that US weapons inspector that was all over the news just before we invaded Iraq. He was the US head weapons inspector dude and he swore up and down that they have not found any WMD's. He got fired and the rumors were that he was being payed off by Saddam. Maybe he was, but what if he wasnt. Afterall, we never did find those WMDs but that weapons inspector guy lost his job, his reputation and faith in his country. Enter the UN weapons inspectors. Remember Hans Blitz? Testified to the United Nations the same thing the "traitor\evil do'er" American weapons inspector said. There are no WMD's in Iraq. He must be anti-american, so the media and the Bush crew bashed the hell out Blitz and Germany. This leads to the mindset that Blitz, Germany, France, the UN and anyone who disagrees with Bush is "anti american" or "unpatriotic". The United Nations takes us to number 3.......

3. The United Nations, think of the UN as a collection of Democratic Nations that banned together to help each other. Their headquarters is located in New York City and the United Nations was formed and spearheaded by the United States. Its our "baby" if you will. When there is a world crisis or important worldy issue, the member Nations are supposed to send delagates and the issues would get voted upon. The United Nations voted against the war on Iraq. They wanted more sanctions and more proof of WMDs..... see my #2 reason for details on the WMD's.

4. Another reason Americans are upset with the Iraq war is thier tax money is not being spent where they would like it to be spent. Like I was griping about eariler.

5. By going to war with Iraq we are now repsonsible for that country for another 10 years. Ten years of my tax money going for Iraq.

6. The case was made that "he was a terrible man and he's killed millions of his people", and alot of people have the same attitude as I stated earier.... "when I look out my back door, I can't see Iraq, so f*ck em". But that is honesty a nasty thing to say, and a better arguement would be the Cuba, Sudan, North Korea, China human rights travisties. If we say we are going to Iraq to help the poor Iraqi people, then what about the Cuban's and all those poor African's. I would bet ya that if our cars, boats, airplanes and OUR WHOLE ECONOMY DIDNT RUN ON OIL, but instead ran on fine cigars...... we would have free'ed the Cuban people 50 years ago. Our constitution says nothing about spreading Democracy around the world. Alot of American's dont want the US to be the worlds police. Thats what the UN is for. And we slapped every member of the Unitied Nations in the face, or I should say the Bush administration should. Hence... instead of those radical Islamist being pissed off at us, now we got the whole world pissed off at us. Some might say "who cares", but in reality.... its not cool.

7. The Bush adminstration then spreads more lies to get into a war with Iraq, they claim that Iraq supported the 9\11 terrorists and Osama Bin Ladan. The United States govt does a complete "9\11 report" and in that report they\we found that Iraq had zero ties to Osama and there was no evidence of any involvment in 9\11. The 9\11 commision wanted to interview our National Security Advisor Condi Rice....... and Bush fought tooth and nail against having her interviewed. Why? Then Bush was asked to testify to the 9\11 committee and he refused. He then agreed to testify as long as he wasn't under oath and that Dick Cheney was there with him. Why would he do that ? Might Abyss you hit on this one in your rantings.... you didnt remember what hearings Bush was forced too and that he had to have Cheney with him in the room. It was the 9\11 hearings. Bush also fought tooth and nail about even having a 9\11 investigation report. Why would he even suggest that or be aftraid of having his cabinet testify ????? Because the commitee would see that Iraq was not involved with the 9\11 attacks and put another reason on my list why we shouldn't have free'ed the Iraqi's........ at this moment in history.

7. 1000 American soldiers have died. Actually that number is off, I havent heard a death toll lately, but last I heard, about a month ago the number was around 800 dead. Someone made the point earier that "hey they signed up for the military, they know they could die" and I gotta agree with that 100%. But the 50% of Americans who have Kerry's vote... and who agree with my 6 other "reasons" sure do wish their sons&daughters and mothers&fathers were alive, instead of dying in an unjust war.

 

Brooke I don't think we're a bad country for free'ing the Iraqi people from Saddam, its how we went about doing it and combined with concerns for getting more inportant "bad guys", American soldiers dying daily and unfortunatly the cost of the war.

[Brooke]

What people are disagreeing with is.....

1. The timing of going to war with Iraq when we just had the terrible 9\11 attacks and there was no solid evidence of Iraq even being involved. The president went on television and said they had these "weapons of mass destruction" in Iraq and Iraq would use them against us by helping out terrorist. The United States has never in its history attacked another country, until we attacked Iraq on the basis on them having WMD, and a few other atrocities Iraq has done. This is leads to the second reason why people are disagreeing with the Iraq war.

2. No WMD's were ever found. NOT EVEN AN EMPTY VIAL, nothing, nada. We've had American and UN inspectors checking Iraq's weaponary ever since the Gulf War and they have never found any WMD's. Do you all remember that US weapons inspector that was all over the news just before we invaded Iraq. He was the US head weapons inspector dude and he swore up and down that they have not found any WMD's. He got fired and the rumors were that he was being payed off by Saddam. Maybe he was, but what if he wasnt. Afterall, we never did find those WMDs but that weapons inspector guy lost his job, his reputation and faith in his country. Enter the UN weapons inspectors. Remember Hans Blitz? Testified to the United Nations the same thing the "traitor\evil do'er" American weapons inspector said. There are no WMD's in Iraq. He must be anti-american, so the media and the Bush crew bashed the hell out Blitz and Germany. This leads to the mindset that Blitz, Germany, France, the UN and anyone who disagrees with Bush is "anti american" or "unpatriotic". The United Nations takes us to number 3.......

3. The United Nations, think of the UN as a collection of Democratic Nations that banned together to help each other. Their headquarters is located in New York City and the United Nations was formed and spearheaded by the United States. Its our "baby" if you will. When there is a world crisis or important worldy issue, the member Nations are supposed to send delagates and the issues would get voted upon. The United Nations voted against the war on Iraq. They wanted more sanctions and more proof of WMDs..... see my #2 reason for details on the WMD's.

4. Another reason Americans are upset with the Iraq war is thier tax money is not being spent where they would like it to be spent. Like I was griping about eariler.

5. By going to war with Iraq we are now repsonsible for that country for another 10 years. Ten years of my tax money going for Iraq.

6. The case was made that "he was a terrible man and he's killed millions of his people", and alot of people have the same attitude as I stated earier.... "when I look out my back door, I can't see Iraq, so f*ck em". But that is honesty a nasty thing to say, and a better arguement would be the Cuba, Sudan, North Korea, China human rights travisties. If we say we are going to Iraq to help the poor Iraqi people, then what about the Cuban's and all those poor African's. I would bet ya that if our cars, boats, airplanes and OUR WHOLE ECONOMY DIDNT RUN ON OIL, but instead ran on fine cigars...... we would have free'ed the Cuban people 50 years ago. Our constitution says nothing about spreading Democracy around the world. Alot of American's dont want the US to be the worlds police. Thats what the UN is for. And we slapped every member of the Unitied Nations in the face, or I should say the Bush administration should. Hence... instead of those radical Islamist being pissed off at us, now we got the whole world pissed off at us. Some might say "who cares", but in reality.... its not cool.

7. The Bush adminstration then spreads more lies to get into a war with Iraq, they claim that Iraq supported the 9\11 terrorists and Osama Bin Ladan. The United States govt does a complete "9\11 report" and in that report they\we found that Iraq had zero ties to Osama and there was no evidence of any involvment in 9\11. The 9\11 commision wanted to interview our National Security Advisor Condi Rice....... and Bush fought tooth and nail against having her interviewed. Why? Then Bush was asked to testify to the 9\11 committee and he refused. He then agreed to testify as long as he wasn't under oath and that Dick Cheney was there with him. Why would he do that ? Might Abyss you hit on this one in your rantings.... you didnt remember what hearings Bush was forced too and that he had to have Cheney with him in the room. It was the 9\11 hearings. Bush also fought tooth and nail about even having a 9\11 investigation report. Why would he even suggest that or be aftraid of having his cabinet testify ????? Because the commitee would see that Iraq was not involved with the 9\11 attacks and put another reason on my list why we shouldn't have free'ed the Iraqi's........ at this moment in history.

7. 1000 American soldiers have died. Actually that number is off, I havent heard a death toll lately, but last I heard, about a month ago the number was around 800 dead. Someone made the point earier that "hey they signed up for the military, they know they could die" and I gotta agree with that 100%. But the 50% of Americans who have Kerry's vote... and who agree with my 6 other "reasons" sure do wish their sons&daughters and mothers&fathers were alive, instead of dying in an unjust war.

 

Brooke I don't think we're a bad country for free'ing the Iraqi people from Saddam, its how we went about doing it and combined with concerns for getting more inportant "bad guys", American soldiers dying daily and unfortunatly the cost of the war.

ok #1 bush had multiple sources telling him that sadaam had WMDs, including intelligence from other countries, and a scientist from iraq. and where were you going with "The United States has never in its history attacked another country, until we attacked Iraq on the basis on them having WMD, and a few other atrocities Iraq has done." ? we have gone to war many times withough being attacked directly by the country.

#2&3 sadaam has been kicking the UN inspectors out of places since the gulf war, telling them they coulding look in certain places etc, violating the un sanctions. we went to the UN before going intto iraq, and gave sadaam months and months notice that we wanted in, those months and months gave him pleanty of time to hide or destroy whatever he may have had. there are countries who participate in the UN who get MUCH more out of sadaam and iraq than we ever have *cough*france*cough* and had good reason to keep us from going in and taking sadaam out of power *cough*food for oil treaty*cough*

#6 we dont need iraq's oil. we get most of our oil supply elsewhere. and i think the UN is a bunch of pussies, they are proving that now with whats going on in the sudan, and their unwillingness to stop that genocide.

#7 i think you need to do some homework. the 9/11 comission did find connections between sadaam and al-qaida

no one wants our soldiers to die, but life isnt all sunshine and roses, sacrifice has to be made for the greater good.

look at our history and compare it to our current situation in iraq:

FDR led us into WWII. Germany never attacked us, Japan did. from 1941-1945 450,000 lives were lost, and average of 112,500 a year.

truman finished that war and started one in korea, north korea never attacked us. from 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost, and average of 18,334 a year.

JFK started the vietnam conflict in 1962, vietnam never attacked us.

under johnson in vietnam, from 1965-1975 58,000 lives were lost, and average of 5,800 a year

clinton went to war in bosnia without UN or french consent, bosnia never attacked us.

in the two years since we were attacked bush has liberated two countries, crushed the taliban, crippled al-qaida, put nuclear inspectors in libya, iran and north korea without firing a shot

[Meat]

yea you guys are right, lets just stop all free trade and our economy will be MUCH better.... 

 

the more pee-on jobs that get sent to china, the more higher paying jobs we can have here.

 

Bradford Pennsylvania, home of Zippo Lighter company, but pumpin out Zippos since the 20's. Just read this in the news last week, their business is being threaten by cheap Chinese knock-offs and sold all around the world. I want you to go to that Zippo plant in Bradford, or any American factory and tell those 50 year old ladies workin on the production line and boys working on the dock loading trucks that thier job is a "pee-on job". My "pee-on" job that pays my bills, puts shoes on my kid and gas in my toys is being threatened by the Chinese imports. Free-trade is great..... when the their's a level playing feild. Now how we gonna level that feild when China and others are paying thier employees pennies ??? Well we've been tryin' to level field ever since we bought our first imported goods. Its called "tarrifs". We impose a tarrif on imported goods, we all know that, but now.... these tarrif's are not working like they should. Want an example ? Buy a made in america Craftsman brand screwdriver for 6 bucks, or buy a Chinese screwdriver for $1.00 in the bargin bin. Brooke your an educated young woman, but your compassion for the American middle class is lacking. Very......... Republican like.

 

 

you know what they say, politics is just showbiz for ugly people.

Dats funny

 

 

 

 

im all for helping everyone also, but we do need to clean up alot of crap right here in the ol usa, before we go sending people to mars we need to send them to doctors and dentists and shit and how do we even come up with all these assholes that run our country, they all remind me of some sort of bad actor in some shitty movie with a fucked up plot

 

Agreed.

 

 

 

all the news channels have devoted weeks now talking about who got shot, who has medals, he's says im an asshole, well i say he's a prick. both these guys are sounding like little kids pissing over marbles in a sandbox, so which idiot do ya pick?

Sad but true. And true they are both idiots. Lets all just vote Nader..... J\K.

 

 

 

it doesnt matter what you do for a living, the guys doing labor jobs in this country are workin a hell of alot harder than i am, but were all gettin hosed by these bastards, everyone one of us americans

Agreed. Rich, poor and those in between all gettin' the shaft one way or another. And just as a side note. I think the tax rate should be equal for all income levels and sales taxes on goods should play a bigger role. We all cringe at sales taxes, but the fact is our country does need money to run. Why should business owners and millionaires be penalized by more taxes than the average man ? Its not right.

 

 

we should give presidents a little 3 month probation, if they dont make some shit happen boot the moron, dont give him 4 years to really f*ck up.......

Agreed. Just like you Californians did to Grey Davis a few months back. He did a shitty job, so you fired his ass. I like that alot. Thats how americans can take back this country from the carreer politicians who don't know jack about maintaining a budget or running a city.

 

 

J.J. wrote...

Surely that indicates that what Meat has to say about the economy is 100% true and one can't blame China for this, you have to look at yourselves..

Vicious circle. Ashame that we're all so damn cheap. I used to go to Wal-mart and I'd buy a Stanley tool with "made in Tiawan" stamped on it and think.... "f*ck payin 7 bucks for a Craftsman tool, here's a perfectly good Stanely at 3 bucks". Out of mind... out of sight, ya know. Then China came in my sight head on when it starting effecting the company I work for and the people who work with me. First lay off they fired 20 people, second lay off a month later 30 more went. We're a small family owned company thats been around since the 40's and now with the new global economy... we're being forced out of business by China.... and the world's hunger to save a dime.

[Brooke]

first of all, i do have compassion for the middle class. most of my extended family falls into that category. and my comment about pee-on jobs wasnt to insult anyone, but why save those jobs instead of giving an opportunity to bring in higher paying jobs? im sure all those people with the pee-on jobs would trade those jobs for better ones in a heartbeat...alls it takes is more training and/or education. in the area i live in, the majority of jobs are low paying, low skilled ones. i would much rather see those jobs go out of the country and train those "50 year old ladies" for new higher paying jobs. there have recently been a lot of mills in my area shutting down, and leaving those people without their jobs...but those mills also set up programs to train the workers for new jobs, most of which would be higher paying. i dont see that as a sad situation.

 

o and always buy craftsman...you get what you pay for.

 

now if you'll excuse me, i need to go take a shower to wash some of this political filth off.

[Meat]

the 9/11 comission did find connections between sadaam and al-qaida

Hell I'd bet the commission can find connections between EVERY COUNTRY and al-qaida. Could you be specific. I was under the impression that the "official word" was no connection.

 

no one wants our soldiers to die, but life isnt all sunshine and roses, sacrifice has to be made for the greater good.

Agreed. But..... a lot americans feel the soldiers should not even be in Iraq, let alone be killed there, thats what I was trying to say before. Of course the troops must go where ever in the world the govt wants them to go, that is thier job, and they are the best in the world at what they do.

 

 

look at our history and compare it to our current situation in iraq:

FDR led us into WWII. Germany never attacked us, Japan did. from 1941-1945 450,000 lives were lost, and average of 112,500 a year.

First of all, comparing Iraq and WWII , no I'd think Vietnam and Iraq make a better anology(is that the word im lookin' for?). Germany was conquering fellow democratic nations and our number one allie England, the whole European continent was under attack from a Dictator. I don't think you'll find anyone who will argue against going to war with Germany. It was a noble cause, "a sacrifice to the greater good".

 

 

truman finished that war and started one in korea, north korea never attacked us. from 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost, and average of 18,334 a year.

We went to war with North Korea because they were run by a communist govt that attacked South Korea a fellow Democratic run govt. The USA should and does protect its fellow Democractic nations against the evils of communism. A good reason is all that we need to go to war.

 

 

JFK started the vietnam conflict in 1962, vietnam never attacked us.

under johnson in vietnam, from 1965-1975 58,000 lives were lost, and average of 5,800 a year

I wish I knew more facts on Vietnam, but if memory serves me right, its a similar situation to the Korean war, North commies against the southern democracy. Or... Vietnam was being converted to a Communist run country and it was our best interest to stop that. Lots of controversy over going to war in Vietnam. It split the country.

 

 

clinton went to war in bosnia without UN or french consent, bosnia never attacked us.

No, clinton dropped a few bombs, shot a few rockets and sent in some troops for a little while. No war. No war was ever declared. And the good reason Clinton had was.. the ethnic cleansing what was happening. How could we pose sancations against Bosnia, fine them for every 100,000 thousand cleansed\dead ??

 

 

The war you forget to mention, and a very important war in the whole pictures is the first Gulf War. Remember what that was all about ?? Iraq invaded tiny Kuwait. Dictatorship attacking a Democracy. It's sort of our "duty" to help out Democratic countries, plus we all hated Saddam. Two great reasons for going to war then, and altho there were some hippies bitchin about that war, the country was pretty well united and agreed that it was justified. The US coalition thought so too. Can you image how different our world would be right now if we would have removed Saddam back in 1990.

 

I don't think anyone will aruge with the war in Afganastan either. Good reason..... home of Bin Laden.

 

Ok, now with all that said.. my point is. We never went to war with any country unprovked, or without one hellava good reason. It seems to me that we didnt have one hellava good reason to attack Iraq, put our troops in harms way or spend our hard earned tax money funding this war. It seems to me like we have a president with a chip on his shoulder, who's a C average student and a failure as a business man running our country blindly grabbing reasons to go to war with Iraq.

 

 

in the two years since we were attacked bush has liberated two countries, crushed the taliban, crippled al-qaida, put nuclear inspectors in libya, iran and north korea without firing a shot

I can't argue with that point. Plus.... we havent been attacked since 9\11.

 

And the Iraq controversy is only part of the reason why Bush must go.......

There's the economy issue, the national debt issue, the unemployment rate during his term. Plus Bush opposes key issues like the women's right to abortion, the gay marrage issue and his very religious morals that are being imposed on us. I don't like a president making decisions on what Howard Stern or Janet Jackson based on his conservative religous views. Less government in my life the better. Wanna get started on that Patriot Act tonight ?? ahhh anyone but Bush. I'll admit that Kerry's kooky too, but Im willing to roll the dice and vote Kerry. I really really really really think that if Kerry get elected, he's not coming after our Banshee's and our riding areas. Those issues..... are raised at a much lower govt level and that level has parties from both constituants.

 

 

Im really gettin tired now, its been nice debatin' with ya all.

till we meet again.... keep it clean, especially you rich guys

Edited August 20, 2004 by Meat

[Blue Duece]

Bradford Pennsylvania, home of Zippo Lighter company, but pumpin out Zippos since the 20's. Just read this in the news last week, their business is being threaten by cheap Chinese knock-offs and sold all around the world. I want you to go to that Zippo plant in Bradford, or any American factory and tell those 50 year old ladies workin on the production line and boys working on the dock loading trucks that thier job is a "pee-on job". My "pee-on" job that pays my bills, puts shoes on my kid and gas in my toys is being threatened by the Chinese imports.

I think a lot of these companies that don

[J.J.]

I think a lot of these companies that don

[Blue Duece]

Plus Bush opposes key issues like the women's right to abortion, the gay marrage issue and his very religious morals that are being imposed on us. I don't like a president making decisions on what Howard Stern or Janet Jackson based on his conservative religous views.

 

His FCC crap is stupid but, sucking kids down the drain cause your a whore and cant keep your legs closed is another story though, they want teenage girls to be able to get abortions with out telling their parents, fucking ACLU again, for medical reasons is one thing but, if a woman willingly fucks and gets pregnant and can abort it, why cant I rape her if I want to, don

[tithead]

His FCC crap is stupid but, sucking kids down the drain cause your a whore and cant keep your legs closed is another story though, they want teenage girls to be able to get abortions with out telling their parents, fucking ACLU again, for medical reasons is one thing but, if a woman willingly fucks and gets pregnant and can abort it, why cant I rape her if I want to, don

Edited August 20, 2004 by tithead

[Brooke]

first, to meat, i think we had good reason to go to war with iraq. he was a horrible dictator who kills hundreds of thousands of his own people and he was canoodling with terrorists....and on the al-qaida link, one of the big al-qaida guys was brought into baghdad to get treated for injuries he sustained on the killing fields of afghanistan, good ol sadaam made sure he got the best treatment available

 

and to blue deuce, you hit the nail on the head my friend. diversify. that was my goal from day 1, always something to fall back on. i studied behavioral science in college, this major has a wide variety of options as far as jobs go, you can enter the research field (minored in mathmatics for that purpose), you can go into the treatment field (focused study on chemical dependancy/addiction) you could train for the FBI to be a profiler(that would be cool but i hear they ask if youve ever done drugs, lie detector, damn my wild youth), and my current application...the advertising/marketing field. i am currently getting my web development certification, and next will be getting my business marketing certification, all the while learning as many software programs as humanly possible to stay on top of everything and be an almost self-sustaining entity in my business til i get well on my feet. i can take an almost domino like fall and have several safety nets in place.

you gotta look out for yourself, no one else will. you shouldnt expect the government to be there to catch you if you fall.

[rebelbanshee2]

2. No WMD's were ever found. NOT EVEN AN EMPTY VIAL, nothing, nada. We've had American and UN inspectors checking Iraq's weaponary ever since the Gulf War and they have never found any WMD's. Do you all remember that US weapons inspector that was all over the news just before we invaded Iraq. He was the US head weapons inspector dude and he swore up and down that they have not found any WMD's. He got fired and the rumors were that he was being payed off by Saddam. Maybe he was, but what if he wasnt. Afterall, we never did find those WMDs but that weapons inspector guy lost his job, his reputation and faith in his country. Enter the UN weapons inspectors. Remember Hans Blitz? Testified to the United Nations the same thing the "traitor\evil do'er" American weapons inspector said. There are no WMD's in Iraq. He must be anti-american, so the media and the Bush crew bashed the hell out Blitz and Germany. This leads to the mindset that Blitz, Germany, France, the UN and anyone who disagrees with Bush is "anti american" or "unpatriotic". The United Nations takes us to number 3.......

WRONGO! We found some artillery shells with sarin gas in them that actually blew up, but then destroyed the gas. Before that we found a truck load of mustard gas and another depot of it. And more recently the Polish (yes other countries are helping us!) Found some WMD, I dont remember the type....However CBS, NBS, and ABS gave it very little coverage, therefore it never happend

[rebelbanshee2]

Right on with the Homos and Abortion! I am pro choice..as in you have the choice to not bang someone you dont want to have a kid with...