BaNsHEE ELiMiNaToR Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 Hi there i know this is off the subject of the shee but i come to ask some questions. Im 17 and i am about to purchase the new 2004 R-1 from Yamaha. Just wandering what i am to suspect for this new addition to the garage. I rode a street bike befor but never owned one. Tell me about your experiences. Thanks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CombatTalon2 Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 This bike will bite you the very Second you quit paying attention. the power of these new liter class bikes is just amazing. I WOULD NOT buy an R1 as my first sports bike, but thats me. by the way, how much is insurance on an R1 for a 17 year old???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herecomethebastards Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 probably more per year than the bike costs...really. i was looking into getting insurance for my dads 1984 goldwing, and since im 19, it was going to be almost $2000 a year...so im not going to get a bike for a few years. although im getting my license in july.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton eyed Joe Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 This bike will bite you the very Second you quit paying attention. the power of these new liter class bikes is just amazing. I WOULD NOT buy an R1 as my first sports bike, but thats me. by the way, how much is insurance on an R1 for a 17 year old???? I agree. Isn't about the only difference between an R6 and an R1, is just how fast it gets to 160? A guy I used to do work for had an R-6, and he said he had no problems getting to about 155. He said it wouldn't go over that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CombatTalon2 Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 (edited) I feel ya, i grew up riding dirt bikes, and quads, and whatever else i could get my hands on, and at 16 i bought my first sport bike, a 93 ZX-6. Thinking back now to how scared I was of a 600cc bike, there is no way i would have got an R1. First problem is that you WILL drop your first bike, i said it wouldnt happen since i had been ridding bikes for years...but guess what it happend, and i was glad that it didnt happen to a $10,000 bike. Also i know insurance at 16 on my zx-6 was high, like around 150-200 p/month on my families insurance policy (i was still the primary on the policy) If i would have tried to get insurance on my own, the insurance companies probably would have laughed at me. But anyway, to each his own i guess... Edited May 25, 2004 by CombatTalon2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CombatTalon2 Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 This bike will bite you the very Second you quit paying attention. the power of these new liter class bikes is just amazing. I WOULD NOT buy an R1 as my first sports bike, but thats me. by the way, how much is insurance on an R1 for a 17 year old???? I agree. Isn't about the only difference between an R6 and an R1, is just how fast it gets to 160? A guy I used to do work for had an R-6, and he said he had no problems getting to about 155. He said it wouldn't go over that. yep the r6 is quick as shit, but like you said it runs out around 160 or so. the R1 will charge on well beyond that, and at those speeds on the street, you are just asking to 1. go to jail or 2. die Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton eyed Joe Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 I feel ya, i grew up riding dirt bikes, and quads, and whatever else i could get my hands on, and at 16 i bought my first sport bike, a 93 ZX-6. Thinking back now to how scared I was of a 600cc bike, there is no way i would have got an R1. First problem is that you WILL drop your first bike, i said it wouldnt happen since i had been ridding bikes for years...but guess what it happend, and i was glad that it didnt happen to a $10,000 bike. Also i know insurance at 16 on my zx-6 was high, like around 150-200 p/month on my families insurance policy (i was still the primary on the policy) If i would have tried to get insurance on my own, the insurance companies probably would have laughed at me. But anyway, to each his own i guess... I've had one ticket the entire time I've had my license...going on 13 years now. When I was 18 I looked into the insurance on a bullet bike, and the people underwriting the policy just said, "no." So I got something else instead. I went to get my own insurance on my 3rd vehicle when I was 22. The insurance went from $80/mo family policy to almost $200/mo on my own. The truck payment was only $440 or so. I've seen quite a few kids around here that get insurance for the first 6 months, then let it lapse. Hell most of them don't even have a valid motorcycle endorsement on their regular drivers license. If they get pulled over big deal. Pay the fine, its less than insurance. Thats why I have a ton of un-insured motorist coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CombatTalon2 Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 I've had one ticket the entire time I've had my license...going on 13 years now. When I was 18 I looked into the insurance on a bullet bike, and the people underwriting the policy just said, "no." So I got something else instead. I went to get my own insurance on my 3rd vehicle when I was 22. The insurance went from $80/mo family policy to almost $200/mo on my own. The truck payment was only $440 or so. I've seen quite a few kids around here that get insurance for the first 6 months, then let it lapse. Hell most of them don't even have a valid motorcycle endorsement on their regular drivers license. If they get pulled over big deal. Pay the fine, its less than insurance. Thats why I have a ton of un-insured motorist coverage. This is very true, i know first hand of a guy down here in tucson that bought a brand new R6, first bike he had ever owned, and still does not have a Motorcycle Endorsement on his license. But i guess when you play by the rules, you pay out the nose... one more reason for people to break the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDD Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 Just wandering what i am to suspect for this new addition to the garage. Brendan all I can tell you its been nice not knowing ya. Seriously I bought my own 98 ZX6R as my first bike when I was 20. Insurance was not bad for me since I never had tickets or accidents. I was paying around 80 a month full coverage for just myself on my own policy. Any new 600 will kill you just as fast as a liter bike will. Your just asking for a world of hurt dude. Riding on the street takes 110% of your attention and most of it is not from you making mistakes but from other cage drivers that try to take you out any chance they get. Save your money and buy something like a SV650 or older 600cc crotch rocket. If your still alive in a year or two go ahead and move up to a bigger bike if you still feel like you need it. Starting off with a smaller bike will let you get the feel for riding and hone your skills. It will also keep the insurance costs to a min. and if you keep your record clean the insurance companies will give you a better deal on a bigger bike. What ever you get play it safe and remember stunts and tricks and showing off will kill you just like the little old lady that pulls out in front of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CombatTalon2 Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 Just wandering what i am to suspect for this new addition to the garage. Brendan all I can tell you its been nice not knowing ya. Seriously I bought my own 98 ZX6R as my first bike when I was 20. Insurance was not bad for me since I never had tickets or accidents. I was paying around 80 a month full coverage for just myself on my own policy. Any new 600 will kill you just as fast as a liter bike will. Your just asking for a world of hurt dude. Riding on the street takes 110% of your attention and most of it is not from you making mistakes but from other cage drivers that try to take you out any chance they get. Save your money and buy something like a SV650 or older 600cc crotch rocket. If your still alive in a year or two go ahead and move up to a bigger bike if you still feel like you need it. Starting off with a smaller bike will let you get the feel for riding and hone your skills. It will also keep the insurance costs to a min. and if you keep your record clean the insurance companies will give you a better deal on a bigger bike. What ever you get play it safe and remember stunts and tricks and showing off will kill you just like the little old lady that pulls out in front of you. agreed! I dont see why Any new rider needs the latest, greatest, and FASTEST Sport bike in production, like you said..."it was nice knowing ya..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton eyed Joe Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 My shop is just off of HWY 193 (For those that live or have been to the area). Its a road that boarders Hill AFB. One day my dad calls me on the phone to ask me if I saw the police/EMT's out by the shop on my way out. I said no,...he said there was a bullet bike, and parts of it, that had T-Boned a car that turned left in front of him, just over a little crest in the road. From what he said, the front wheel was touching the back wheel, and the bike was into the car it hit. One day out on break just off of that same road last summer I had to swerve to miss being landed on by Life Flight. They didn't really have time to block the road off, they had to get this guy into SLC. His helmet was broken in about 3 pieces and covered in a bloody bio-hazard bag along with a shirt and some other clothing. Same deal. He T-boned a woman turning left into the 7-11 right there, and either he was going to fast, or she didnt see him or both. His bike wasn't a mess though. It looked rideable still, but he must have hit her front quarter panel and ricocheted off of her windshield. That guy was busted up!!!! Like these guys said. Its not necessarily you that is going to make the mistake. Its the woman tending her kids in the back seat, making a cell phone call and applying a 4th layer of makeup that will get you when you least expect it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MULLET~BOY Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 i wouldn't drive a sport bike in the city i know alot of kids that own them and know a few that have been hurt or killed just 3 weeks ago my friend died when a semi pulled out in front of him and my friend who was stupid and was going 150 mph plowed right into the bumper of the semi i duno you but i hope you responcable enough not do somthing stupid like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTShee Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 Like these guys said. Its not necessarily you that is going to make the mistake. Its the woman tending her kids in the back seat, making a cell phone call and applying a 4th layer of makeup that will get you when you least expect it. Werd, I think an R1 as a first road bike is a bad move, there are too many factors that can go wrong and most of them out of your control. I think its crazy that it is even legal for a first timer to buy a bike like that. In NZ when you get your bike licence you have to stay on a 250 or below for the first year or you face big fines. It does sort of suck that you cant ride a bigger bike, but it is a good way for you too learn the dangers that are out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 im thinkin you will kill yourself or you will not be able to afford insurance. im 21 and insurance companies laugh at me when i ask them about insurance for a bike like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoin39 Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 I have owned at least 10 bikes since i was 16, i started out on a 400 and went up as i got older and more experienced. I have owned 5 sportbikes. cbr600, zx6, honda 1100XX, R1, and now a Ninja ZX9. I kept the ninja over the R1 because it will still keep up with all the litre bikes but is way more comfortable on long trips (riding to Maine in a few weeks). As a beginner you need to buy a 600 or less to get experience and learn to ride! There is more to riding than going fast, proper throttle control in turns, picking turn-in points, knowing when to use the back brakes and when not too, anticipating EVERYONE ELSES MOVE before they do! It takes years of riding to really know what you are doing and how to be as safe as possible. You will drop your bike at somepoint, and if you ride long enough, you will crash! I have twice, once was my fault, a patch of oil in a curve that I was trying to drag my knee on, ouch! Learn to ride defensively and take all the training course you can. Your insurance will be more than your payments on a sportbike! I have taken rider classes for beginners, advanced, and just completed Kieth Code track day school in California, all well worth the money! Be safe, be smart, and have fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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