demonspeeding42069 Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 this is bullll shit 3.39 for regular in bay city michigan they gotta do somethin about this shit or i bet there is gunna be some riots soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGL Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 This is whats to be expected when we let the eco-dicks keep us from building a refinery in the last 25 fricken years!!!! All the oil reserves in the world dont mean jack if you cant process oil into gasoline... half of the refineries down there that are shut down are gas producers, so thank a tree hugger ,bend over and grab your ankles cuz it's gonna be a bit before they stop the gas companies from raping us.... gee wasnt drilling in ANWR and using closed military sites for new refineries proposed just recently??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Holyman Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 That's all wrapped up in a neat little package of glorious capitolism. It's easy to say don't buy gas but if you have to go to work, you HAVE to buy gas. If you want to eat, you will HAVE to pay for the shipping which is part of the cost. So fuel is one of the few things that has an effect on EVERY aspect of life. It's not saying go without eating lobster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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98bonerSTOCKshee Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 I'm just trying to think outside of the "white boy on high ground in the suburbs" box and wondered what I would do if I was poor with no insurance and lived in a crime ridden area.It might be tempting to stay since there is a chance the hurricane would bypass my area. If I evacuated before it got really bad, I might reason with myself that every drug addict and thief would be in my house stealing everything before I even got to the end of the block. If I evacuate my sick aunt, my 6 kids and my old lady who is bustin' her butt working at the dollar store, 200 miles away to "safe" ground and the storm doesn't hit, how am I going to afford to get back or even how am I going to scrape up the money to leave town. If I'm 200 miles away and the storm doesn't hit, am I going to be able to miss work at my employer? Where am I going to stay when I'm away? All my family and friends live in N-O? If the storm hits, I may be able to get some help from the feds. If it doesn't hit I may lose my job and all of my belongings because I tried to be safe. It sucks to be poor, uneducated, and below sea level. I'm glad I only have to drive 15 minutes to the office and not 1+ hours sitting in traffic throwing hands full of dollar bills out in the street. N-O should NEVER have been allowed to be developed the way it was. Federal engineers have known for decades that the situation was ripe for disaster. Now the disaster has come. Politicians around here have allowed homes to built near the river. About 10 years ago the river flooded and ruined millions of dollars in homes. The politicians said "It's a once in 100 years flood" and allowed homes to be rebuilt and new homes to be added. A couple years ago it flooded just the same and even more millions were wasted. In fact the flood was even worse. They even allowed a church to build a multimillion dollar addition on the flood plane. Now they want to tear everything down {not the church because the politicians apparently go there } and put the businesses out. These businesses were strugling as it is. But they went thru all the work of restoring their properties and now they want to shove them out and tear it down. So much of this could have been avoided if people would have been smarter. #1 offer these poor folks a flat fee for their houses {by the looks of alot of 'em they should have gone cheap} #2 block ALL future building in thses dangerous areas. Not even mansions for the politicians. #3 turn the area into usable public space. Of course an ATV park and fishing ponds and walking trails and nature areas would be awesome {mostly ATV trails } #4 develop safer areas for residences which will have a much higher value because the city would mostly be a park and require new structures to be hurricane resistant so people can be safer. But now that there is no tax base, no income, and no residences, and no residents, the only money that will be spent there will be from insurers {most of that money is sucked up by the contractors} and the government {most of that money is sucked up by the politicians and their preferred contractors}. As far as I can tell, New Orleans is the modern equivalent of Atlantis. 410588[/snapback] Holy!Holy! Holy! impeach Bush inugerate (sp?) Holyman! #3 hell yeah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducman Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 this is bullll shit 3.39 for regular in bay city michigan they gotta do somethin about this shit or i bet there is gunna be some riots soon 410741[/snapback] Finally someone with higher prices than CA. I think the gas station closest to my house (shell = ripoff) want $3.09 for regular but most stations are still just under $3 for regular. I have to buy premium for my Lightning, cost $50 to fill my tank 3/4 full at $3.10/gal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheeJen Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 I made my own personal sacrifices months ago when fuel started to rise. Long trips out to ride are a thing of the past and maybe for a while. My biggest cutback was just not squandering gas driving around lolly gagging like I used to. Sometimes I like to just cruise around to clear my head, now I bicycle around town or play video games. I dont eat out near as much as I used to. Cutting out that extra tank of fuel, and the eating out saved quit a bit. Probably $60 a week. Although my cut backs may have affects on others, quite frankly I cant consider that when I'm budgeting my paycheck towards bills each month. Unless you're independently wealthy everyone is budgeting and cutting back I imagine. Point being everyones decisions in some minute way have an effect on everyone out there. But 1st and foremost I have to consider myself, my family, and my own priorities 1st! If that means the kid working at McD's gets an hour cut and he can only buy a 12 pk instead of case so be it. Supply and demand has always worked, you keep demanding and the keep supplying you with a higher price. Personally I have cut my demand in half. If it werent 25 miles to work i'd likely bicycle and cut it down another half. If everyone would cut back on their useless driving which a lot of people do. I carpooled out with friends to eat the last weekend and you wouldnt believe all the teeenagers out cruising the drag and racing up and down the road. And i'm with Holy on refinery placement, they had to expect this would eventually happen! Your on the coast for god sakes and below sea level. We looked at some land north of us, nice area to ride and a nice creek. But they told us it was considered a 100 yr flood plane. Well that one in a 100 was not worth loosing a house and unreplaceable memorables over. They are in the process of opening a BioDiesel plant just north of us in Oklahoma and hopefully that will really help the farming community around here. Maybe more stations will start to carry it at the pump when the refinery is up and going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boonman Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 3.08/gal for regular this morning. Now, 3.79/gal. Regular unleaded. Diesel, I am not sure of now. I only pass gas stations, not fuel stations on the way to work. I have to go out of my way to get fuel myself. I filled up on Wednesday, it was $232.72 to fill the tank(s) on the truck. $2.90/gal. I hate filling my truck. I don't even want to see what the wekeend brings. Good thing I won't have to fill up untill at least the end of next week, perhaps the week after..... Maybe there will be some relief at that point, but I doubt it. Fuel prices for my mower(s) is insane. It is costing me more money now to mow. Good thing I don't have any employees. If I hike prices now, I risk losing customers. If I don't I will probably lose them anyways. I guess it isn't that much more per lawn. Or per job..... It is getting hot these days.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crbanshee Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 i just paid $3.oo a gallon in san diego..it used to cost me $15. to fill my ford ranger when i first got it..now $40 dosnt do shit for my tank..i say we boycot the major stations..arco shell mobil all the major stations and ust only the little indepent stations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banshee0044 Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 highest ive seen for the cheap shit so far is 3.49/gal..thats insane..but fuck i figure by the time i graduate we'll be around 4 or 5.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frocashmoney24 Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 paid 3.50 a gallon last night for the "cheap" gas. if it gets around 5 dollars like i hear its going to, my truck will be up for sale as well as the rest of my toys, i cant even afford to put gas in the fuckin things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 Holy!Holy! Holy!impeach Bush inugerate (sp?) Holyman! #3 hell yeah! 410855[/snapback] Id vote for Holyman ! 99% of the time I agree with everything the man writes. Common sense rules !! $3.39 for "cheap" stuff here in central Pa. Im worried about home heating costs this winter, I really don't know if I am going to be able to afford heating oil at these prices throughout the winter. Im going to need to selling ATV parts to heat my house and put gas in the car. Also, if you folks have ever been thinking about buying a motorcycle, now it the time. Mine saves me a ton of gas money. It used to cost me $4 bucks and change to fill the tank on my Rz. Now is nearly 12 bucks to fill it up. My van cost me $50 bucks for half a tank at $2.59 a gallon. Now I can't afford to drive my big ol van twenty miles to work. The way things are going, im going to end up putting knobbies on my Rz and will be riding the bastard to work in January snow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 Id vote for Holyman ! 99% of the time I agree with everything the man writes. Common sense rules !! 411183[/snapback] Seriously Hoyman, run for pres in the next election. You'll have my vote too! As a side note, if more money was put into research for alternate fuel sources (which can essentially be equal to those of our gas-based vehicles for day-to-day transportation), we would bring the cost of them down so people can actually afford them.... I understand fully that not everyone wants a hybrid, but what if all the people that do, could now afford them, if they were the same price (or close to) the new cars they're buying now. Here's just a few of the pros below: 1) the alternate-fuel cars are would be cheaper if more money by the government was put towards research and development of these cars 2) less gas cars on the road means less laws needed regarding pollution control 3) more alternate-fuel cars means we can keep our 2-stoke toys and they would still be in production next year. 4) petroleum-based fuels would be cheaper, as someone here mentioned about England earlier, since we wouldn't be requiring as much to be imported, we could actually use the reserves we have in moderation mixed with what we import from the middle-east. I'd buy an alternate-fuel car (such as the hyriid toyota has) if it wasn't the price of a luxury SUV... which I'm not running out to buy either. The above would help everyone. Those who want trucks and SUVs that run on Petro, can have them, while the others won't be relying on big oil companies to get them from point a to b. Look, for example on the VW's with the kits they sell to run the car on used vegetable oil... not bad for something a restaurant was going to throw away.... and I haven't heard any complaints about power or torque issues. It's not about being 100% eco-nazi... it's about providing more options for the consumer... we all have to get to work (well most of us) everyday and we all want to have our fun, be it a boat, atv, motorcycle, or even a piper cub.... but if everyone is using the same resources for their recreation and their transportation.... that leaves a lot of room for control by the suppliers of the fuel. That doesn't work for anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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