cdcoxwell Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 It's extremely easy to sit back and jump on the band wagon and criticize. IT IS AMAZING TO ME THAT THE PEOPLE WHO SIT BACK AND BITCH ARE ALSO THE VERY ONES YOU DON'T WANT FIGHTING FOR YOUR COUNTRY BECAUSE WE WOULD LOSE DEW TO THEIR COWARDNESS. I guess they think if they protest enough they will not be asked to fight for their country. We don't want them to, we want people who believe in the COLORS of our flag and FREEDOM. PEOPLE WHO CAN STAND UP AND FIGHT FOR WHAT THEY BELIEVE IN. These are the people who would never join the military because they don't believe in anything, they just want to sit back and reep from the benefits, FREEDOM. Look at the next rally on the news, the protesters, these are the same people and the same type of people that went running to other countries during the draft. No BACKBONE. Clinton for example, ran to MOTHER RUSSIA. The next time justintoxicated someone tells you something obviously neg about our gov't and the U.S.. Take a good look at their character. These are the same professors that were hiding douring Vietnam. You have had NOTHING positive to CONTRIBUTE to this topic at all except bleeding heart stories. Nothing at all. 5,000 children were dying a month from starvation and illnesses while Sudaam was in power. When the military was in town women were raped and girls as young as 12yrs old. The olympic soccer team didn't win a gold medal, so they were all exacuted except one or two. Hudae would have teachers pick out certain teenage girls that were his type so they could be taken from high school to his house to be raped. Hudae wanted to court one girl and she wanted nothing to do with him, so he has kidnapped and raped her and sent her family her HEAD in a bag. Chop, Chop, what a date. Let me guess, for those of you who have a problem with the US being in Iraq, as long as it isn't in my back yard it doesn't matter. Yep, that's exactlty the kind of thinking this country is NOT built on. History repeats itself, these same type of cowards didn't want the US to take HITLER out. I just don't get it, yea I do. IT IS SO EASY TO TAKE THE BACK SEAT AND BITCH, MOAN AND COMPLAIN. It's easier to follow someone than to jump in front and be a leader. This kind of IGNORANCE sickens me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
. Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 thats kind of like the kettle calling the pot black isnt it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdcoxwell Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 How is that, Please EXPLAIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banshee76179 Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 Here's another from a loacl radio station! http://www.kegl.com/letter.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justintoxicated Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 (edited) News Flash, I just recieved this letter via email, it is nothing more than a political add. It has little weight to me in comparison the the real letters from classmates who have family and friends there. cdcoxwell, tuff shit! while all these facts about Iraq may be true, I just feel we should concentrate more on fixing our country and give a shit less about others...We spend so much on war, when we could have instead provided free health care for everyone in the US for less money, or feed hundreads of thousands of starving people in our own as well as another country for less than the cost of this war. some of you may not care about healthcare because you are covered. But MANY people do not have health care in our own country, or have such horrible care they people are afraid to go to the doctor untill it is too late because they don't want to pay the bill to make sure they are ok...And yes there is probably a few who would abuse the system of free health care, but on the other hand would you? I know I have better things to do than hang around my doctors office all day, and so the benefits of free healthcare outweigh the negatives. Shit even Canada has free healthcare and they have no where near as much power and wealth as the United States. Hitler and Iraq int he same paragraph, we went to war for COMPLEATLY different reasons, Hilter was about to take out the entire globe, and was a HUGE diret threat for the United states as well ass the entire REST of the world. Our position in Iraq has NOTHING in common with WW2 NOTHING! THere wer almsot 0 protests durring WW2, because the circumstances of that war were ENTIRELY different, I can;t believe you would even TRY to make an association between the two! What about our education system, where the wealthy and less than 1% of the rest of the people are the only ones who can get a "prestigious education" and where the largest thign SAT and standardized testing correlates with is not knowledge but the wealth of your family? As I said I'm not compleatly against the war, I'm just upset with the way things are being handled. Our country has serious problems with unemployments, Medial/ Health care/ and the education system to name a few... Who gives a shit if we improved Iraques hospital system staffing by creating new jobs for nurses and doctors by blowing people up! We need to fix the shit over here first, f*ck Iraq. And Yes God Bless America! Edited April 29, 2004 by Justintoxicated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdcoxwell Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 That's very MATURE. When have nothing inteligent to say, start cursing at people at people. You should be proud. You are either showing your age or ignorance. Btw, God bless American is not what your were screaming on your other post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justintoxicated Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 (edited) That's very MATURE. When have nothing inteligent to say, start cursing at people at people. You should be proud. You are either showing your age or ignorance. Btw, God bless American is not what your were screaming on your other post. Dude! your fucked up sentance does not even make any sense. Actualy this is IS what I have been saying all along. Perhaps you should learn how to read! Jsut because i do not like Bush does not mean I do not like america! Can't you get that through your skull yet? Edited April 29, 2004 by Justintoxicated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdcoxwell Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 If i'm wrong, I will admit I'm wrong. But reading your other post does not scream Patriotism. I understood it, and many others did as well by their reply, that you were not a fan of bush and you didn't believe we shouldn't be fighting against terrorism and for the freedom for Iraqies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justintoxicated Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 you have some of it right, perhaps, read it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb67rs1 Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 (edited) man do you guys get spooled up LOL, f*ck it who really cares, i have been going to the desert now for over 9 years, does it get old YES, do you miss your family? YES. but are you doing good? YES, i have been to kawait , iraq, uae and all the surounding areas and all we do is haul millions and millions of books and water and medical supplies and shit like that to these people. why are we fighting over stupid shit between each other when its AMERICA trying to help everyone out. if you want to see what is going to for real, check such sites every day such as www.af.mil . CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG Edited April 30, 2004 by cb67rs1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phreak Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 well, and most of the big media is liberal. so what else would you expect? you're absolutely right. most of the media is slanted quite a bit to the left, unfortunately. they'll show more of the negatives in an attempt to make bush and his adminstration look bad...that's what i think anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdcoxwell Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 One reason unemployment is high is dew to Huge companies leaving the US for other countries who only charge $1 or less per hr. You would be amazed at the number of companies who have folded their tents to hop across the pond. But, you want here that on the news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdcoxwell Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 As for Health care, unfortunately their is entirely TOO much money involved. We will never see health care practicaly free or much better than it is now in my life time. Health Care, Social Ser. and Unemployment are all just POLITICAL topics during election time. There are plenty of jobs out there. I have never been out of a job when I desperately needed one. Granted, it may have not been that high paying job, but there are jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justintoxicated Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 (edited) Your exactly right! Outsourcing is a huge problem, of which I see no solution for if we continue with Capitalism (note There is a Huge difference between Making Capital and Making Profit), we can only see how things will turn out.... It would be easy to say that we should simply not do it, but then all the other countries in the world would still exploit the poor ones and we may not be able to compeat int he world market. So I really dunno, but at least we can see there IS a serious problem with it. As for free health care, it is entirely possible, like I said if we can afford to go to war we can afford free health care! We are vastly more wealthy than Canada and they have free health care!?! so why not! Again I believe this has to do with the way a capitalist society works. If there is not profit in free health care for the big capitalists then why would they want to have any part of it? In fact, it might even make more unemployment because citizens would not die off as fast! Especialy the poor ones, who there are already too many of.... IMO our society is run more by Capitalism than than through a true Democracy. Capitalist & Democracy do not make any sense when combined if you really have a strong understanding of both words, how can something truely be both!??!?! And this is why other countries look at us so confused Again, note the huge difference between capital and profit. looking at a small part of the US called California, we have a very unique problem. yes there are jobs flipping burgers etc, but these Jobs even when working 60+ hour weeks do not provide enough $$ for both healthcare, transportaton, and a place to live. I mean look at the cost of housing and apartments here! And if your workign 60+ hours a week to make ends meat, good luck finding time to look for a better job! Crazyness I tell ya! latez, Edited April 29, 2004 by Justintoxicated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdcoxwell Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 well put. I think I'm going to go back to looking up info for my shee on the repairs forum . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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