erbilabuc Posted March 26, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 needles are going in, all i need to know is which way the slides face when they are inside the carb thats all I need to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton eyed Joe Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 needles are going in, all i need to know is which way the slides face when they are inside the carb thats all I need to know. If you look into the carbs from the air filter side.....INTO THE ENGINE.... you should see a cut away. The "back" part of the slide should just barely be open if you can even see it open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banshee04le Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 If it is revving to the moon then your slides are not closing all the way. Like bigtreads said and you probably know, you must line up the pin in the bore with the slot in the slide. If the slides where closing enough then the engine could not possibly get enough air to rev high...therefore your slides are NOT closeing properly. Like has already been said, there are only 3 things that will keep the slides from closing all the way. Either the pin in the bore is not lined up with the slot in the slide, or the slot is lined up but your needle is not in proper position, or your cable is hanging it up... adjust it or whatever, but you have to get your slides down. I know from experience it can be a bitch to get the slides to fall down into position sometimes, even when the pin IS lined up, but when it falls into position you will know it, because it drops. I'm thinking they are just not dropped into full proper position. Take them out and try again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton eyed Joe Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 If it is revving to the moon then your slides are not closing all the way.Like bigtreads said and you probably know, you must line up the pin in the bore with the slot in the slide. If the slides where closing enough then the engine could not possibly get enough air to rev high...therefore your slides are NOT closeing properly. Like has already been said, there are only 3 things that will keep the slides from closing all the way. Either the pin in the bore is not lined up with the slot in the slide, or the slot is lined up but your needle is not in proper position, or your cable is hanging it up... adjust it or whatever, but you have to get your slides down. I know from experience it can be a bitch to get the slides to fall down into position sometimes, even when the pin IS lined up, but when it falls into position you will know it, because it drops. I'm thinking they are just not dropped into full proper position. Take them out and try again. Hell, I've even had the cable at the thumb throttle pull out a little and catch on the cable casing and rev to the moon. Check everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigboybanshee Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 I still wanna know if that choke tube is in there....same problem I had when I first rebuilt the shee, took me damn near a week to figure it out...I very well may be wrong, but it's something to check Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erbilabuc Posted March 26, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 needles are going in, all i need to know is which way the slides face when they are inside the carb thats all I need to know. If you look into the carbs from the air filter side.....INTO THE ENGINE.... you should see a cut away. The "back" part of the slide should just barely be open if you can even see it open. is the shape of the cutaway like a halfmoon? kinda like this guys mouth --- > guys the probelm at hand is wether or notthe slides are facing the correct way.I took my carbs apart a while back to change the clip position and I think I got the slides mixed up. I know it has to go in the notch but if u get the wrong slide in the wrong carb it will still go in place it will just have a different face and back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigboybanshee Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 YES, it looks like the grin on this smiley----> So, take them apart, and see what ya got Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducman Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 Yes, from your first post it sounds like you do have the slides in correct. The cuttaway section on the slide (frown shape ) faces the rear of the bike. You can take off your air filter and look into your intake to verify this. Also look into your intake to verify that both of the slides are going all the way down. The choke tube will make it bogg and barely run or kill it so I doubt it is that. Really sounds like an air leak or a stuck throttle cable or the slide in the carbs are not going all the way down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigboybanshee Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 The choke tube will make it bogg and barely run or kill it so I doubt it is that. Maybe so, but it sure didn't do that with me!!! As soon as it cranked up shee skyrocketed and I had to kill it...Who knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRMit Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 the slides can only go in one way due to a small pin in the barrel that the slides go in - that is why there is a channel cut into the slide. So if the slides are not lined up with this pin they will not go to the bottom which is where idle would be. If they are not lined up the slides will be about a 1/4 to 1/2 inch from the top of the carb. If the slide is actually going to the bottom your finger will most likly just be long enough to touch the slide. If the slides are still at the top it will act like it is running wide open - cause it is. OK now that that has been determined are the needles bent and not going into the main jet ? if so you would get basicly the same result with near wide open running and hard starting etc. Of coarse you may know all this to but this can be frustrating the first few times around You can get the slides in the wrong carbs by turning the slides around backwards. Then the pin slides through the correct groove in the slide, but is facing the opposite direction. What are you using to adjust the idle? Are you using the nuts where the cables enter the TORS or the bigger knobs on top of the TORS facing the seat? The ones facing the seat are the ones you use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erbilabuc Posted March 26, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 You can get the slides in the wrong carbs by turning the slides around backwards. Then the pin slides through the correct groove in the slide, but is facing the opposite direction. What are you using to adjust the idle? Are you using the nuts where the cables enter the TORS or the bigger knobs on top of the TORS facing the seat? The ones facing the seat are the ones you use. I tried using the cable adjusters and the tors knobs but nothing. I think my idle is set to high and for some reason I cant adjust it. gonna crack her open and check out the deal. Im trying to im you through AIM krmit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixitrod Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 Unhook the cables and see how it runs. That will help you decided if it's the cable or the carbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erbilabuc Posted March 26, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 Unhook the cables and see how it runs. That will help you decided if it's the cable or the carbs. which cable and unhook it from where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiram Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 Like they said the cut out part towards the filter and line up the slot to the pin on the side that should get it to go down half way they give it a little twist up and down to get the needles to find there hole. They should drop all the way down and leave a small 1-2mm space one the bottom, look at them off the boots so you can verify it does this and that will tell you you have the right and left slides in the correct carb and then take it apart and put them on the boots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixitrod Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 Wow, your making this tough. Unhook the throttle cable so there is not tension to the slide in the carb. You can unhook it from the tors or the carb slides themselves. I'd suggest the carb slides. So, you will drop the carb slides in without a cable, but keep the springs in there. If it still idles high, the trouble is in the carb. If not, you need to diagnois the cable or tors boxes. Make it a step by step process. I still think you have the cable hung up somewhere or tight somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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