nasty01banshee Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 just blew top end after 1/2 hour with new trinity 2 into 1 setup, can i cry now??? after a few wide open passes to check the plugs, the motor just locked, cannot kick over motor, thinking rings are seized, can't start tear down until weekend to verify so all help is appreciated, carb came out of box with 190 main jet and 52 pilot jet, a friend said he thought he was running a 175 main with a 55 pilot in his similar setup, but not sure.. maybe bad info??? now it'll cost some coin to undo my new headache. grrrrrr.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokin350 Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 HEY WHERE IN SOUTH JERSEY U RIDE I RIDE AT CRYSTAL LAKE EXIT 82 WITH THE 3 BIG CLEAR LAKES AND THE CLOSEST WE'LL GET TO DUNES. I WAS THERE THIS WEEKEND AND I'M GOING BACK ON SUNDAY I GO EVERY SUNDAY MAYBE WE CAN MEET UP THERE'S A DS650 THATS BEEN PISSIN ON PEOPLE DOWN THERE GOT ME OUT OF THE HOLE TWICE CAUSE I BOGGED BUT THE THIRD TIME I GOT UM GOOD TO REAL DICK THOUGHT HE WAS THE SHIT. IT WAS LIKE A 11000 QUAD 760 BIGBORE STAGE 4 PORT FROM SOME COMPANY WOOD SOMETHING WOODWEKR RACING SOMTHING LIKE THAT ANYWAYS HOPE U GET UR SHIT RUNNIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasty01banshee Posted March 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 way down south, like exit 38 (atlantic city), then 45 minutes east towards philly.. was gonna roll out to Lacy Twp. this weekend with a pack of banshee nuts, but if you read my post that idea just went in the can.. i think my boy might have a little somethin' sometin' for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schizo Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 I dont think I would have done wide open plug checks on the first 30 mins. on a brand new motor. I didnt do a wide open run on my motor till after about 5 gals. of gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasty01banshee Posted March 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 nahh, motors been together for over a year, i guess what i was fishing for was if the main jet is too small and could i have leaned it out while WOT, its a 35PWK, the 26mm stockers that came off had 290 jets in them.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotulMonsta Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 Lesson learned. ALWAYS check your jetting at idle and ALWAYS run rich and work down. NEVER run an engine at full throttle until you first determine at idle how it's behaving. This problem could have been avoided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDD Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 Check your jetting at idle????? Tell me exactly how you would do this. Nasty I bet you have an airleak some where that caused your rings to stick. Do a leak down test after you get it rebuilt to find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001SSTBanshee Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 Check your jetting at idle????? I dont understand that one either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallrat Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 I like to sit on my bike making dinga ding ding sounds to check the jetting before I start it. Haven't seized yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
. Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 you should do a leakdown test BEFORE you tear it down and see if that was the problem. Chances are it is since you just threw that setup on. I dont have a single carb setup but I'm sure someone on here can verify that those jetting settings arent gonna seize up an engine that quickly. If anything you might've just been a little lean. Hell, I've been a little lean for a whole weekend and my engine ran like a top. Leaner the meaner they say..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boonman Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 I was just gonna say the same thing!!!! Leakdown test BEFORE YOU CRACK A BOLT on that thing. You ned to determine the problem before you do anything.... it is absolutely necessary. An air leak sounds valid. What do the plugs look like? Do they have any aluminum on them? Did you use new gaskets on the cylinder intakes? You also could have sucked a reed in, but I don't think that would lock up the motor..... You could have also threw a bearing in the crank, or a rod bearing.... Could be alot of things.... Pull the stator cover and see if the motor will rotate backwards..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasty01banshee Posted March 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 plugs were just replaced last time out, which was about 4 hours with the 26mm carbs, bike felt the same as always, just finished putting on the 2 into 1 and was trying to work out the bugs and see how it felt, pulled good until about 3/4 throttle then kina leveled off. trinity kit was completely all brand new components, pulled the plugs when i got home they are medium chocolate, bone dry, no noticeable silver flecking to the naked eye, will hit them with a magnifying glass later.. bike has been a screamer since i bought it from a friend in 01, after the motor was rebuilt because he had hydro-locked it, never had any problems until the carb. change.. also was first ride with the dyna fs, which is set like my buddies banshee with the 2 into 1 on curve 2, maybe a little too aggresive before i got the carb. package tuned right.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledofthezep Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 can i cry now??? Yes...yes you can. That sucks man, keep scratch'n your head though; you're bound to get it figured out. I've been at my whit's end more than enough with my shee, but always seem to get it figured out at the last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brugal Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 can i cry now??? Im about to cry for you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeechozen1 Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 i will pray for you tonight bro that it is only your top end that went and that your crank bearings are still together...good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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