ruff_rida69 Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 well today I drained my oil and all that stuff that way I could take off my clutch cover to fix my shifter, well I didn't look at my oil when I drained it I just set it aside, and I took off my clutch cover and it had stuff all in it, "I don't know what" so I decieded to check my oil and I have amost a hand full of shredded crap in my oil and in my clutch cover, it looks like 3% of its metal and the rest 97% looks like shredded plastic or something, I took my clutch off and everything and couldn't find anything wrong, Is there something plastic in the transmission that could of got shredded? I'm stumped! could of something plastic or something fell into my motor and it shredded it or have I gotta serious problem on my hands? The only thing I know that is plastic is my water impeller gear and it looks fine. or could it be the impeller it's self? Thanks in advance, Jonathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDD Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 The only plastic parts I can think of on the clutch side of the motor are kick start assembly piece, water pump gear, and the dip stick. Nothing else is inside the clutch cover that is plastic. There are rubber pieces like the cushions inside the clutch basket, the rubber o-rings between the clutch plates, and the various seals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruff_rida69 Posted March 5, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 all those parts are there and in good shape, could my oil of had anything to do with it? I just put some ATF oil with some lucas oil in it like a day ago, the only reason was because i heard on here that it was the best oil to use in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamaha350 Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 check your nut on the end of the crank. it probably backed off and wore the water pump gear down causing the metal shavings. also check your side cover to see if the nut hit it to. and your drive gear for where it hit the clutch basket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holyman Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 Are you the original owner? Do you have kids? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrfastbanshee Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 I know the clutch basket cushions were mentioned...but did you check them? I believe you have to pull the basket apart and I was told it's non-servicable? I had the same problem and never found out what it was! Plus my bike shifts really hard now...so maybe that was it? Maybe it's time for a Hinson! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruff_rida69 Posted March 5, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 check your nut on the end of the crank. it probably backed off and wore the water pump gear down causing the metal shavings. also check your side cover to see if the nut hit it to. and your drive gear for where it hit the clutch basket. well when I took my cover off my nut on my crank was just hanging on a tiny bit, but it didn't look like my water pump gear was wore though, but I really didn't pay attention to it much. Are you the original owner? Do you have kids? no I'm no the original owner I traded it for my yz250 from a buddy of mine, and I don't have kids and I'm the only one that rides it. I know the clutch basket cushions were mentioned...but did you check them? I believe you have to pull the basket apart and I was told it's non-servicable? I had the same problem and never found out what it was! Plus my bike shifts really hard now...so maybe that was it? Maybe it's time for a Hinson! my clutch does'nt have any cushions in it, and today I noticed that my basket had grooves in the fingers so I know it's time for a new clutch and basket. well I drained my new oil out today after I rode it a little and just a tiny bit come out in my oil, and last night I put gas into the bottem end 2 times and washed it out the best I could, I'm gonna change my oil again today and see how it looks so maybe it ended up stoping grinding what ever it was grinding, I'll keep ya'll posted, Thanks alot, Jonathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotulMonsta Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 Yamabond looks like chewed up plastic when it wears off. If you recently had your cases apart and put too much yamabond on...it will look like plastic pebbles. Metal particles are normal...if it's a lot or big chunks..then you have a problem You can check your clutch cusions by grabbing the basket and wiggling it from side to side. a little movement is fine, a lot is bad. The stock clutch has cusions on it. If it didn't their would be a bout a 1/2 slop in the basket. The clutch is COMPLETLY servicable. There is nothing in that whole motor that can't be taken apart by the user. Well the inner crank bearings will require a press and all kinds of tools to test runout and deflection. The gears inside the tranny are tuff. I had a clutch basket blow up on me and seize the motor. No real damage, I had to pull the side case off and smooth out some nicks and scratches..all minor. That was years ago like 6 or 7 years ago. Still running strong. I wouldn't use ATF..especially if your mixing oil with it..BAD combo. No good for your bearings or clutch. Run basic 10w40 motor oil..any generic brand is good so long as it's petrolium based and has no friction reducing additives. 80wt gear oil works good too from what I've been hearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruff_rida69 Posted March 5, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 yes I did use yammabond when I rebuild my motor and yes it was all over my tranny and is still all over my case "that stuff is really messy!". so I think that could be the problem, and I wasn't worried about the little pieces of metal because there was hardly any in ther I was just worried about the plastic crap I found. Thanks for all ya'lls help!, Jonathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrfastbanshee Posted March 6, 2004 Report Share Posted March 6, 2004 Motul...I was talking about the clutch BASKET being non-servicable. How do I get to the cushions? I took it apart as far as I could...without a press. I know my cushions are worn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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