CoolRaptor2001 Posted March 1, 2004 Report Share Posted March 1, 2004 I asked the bike/atv shop about having the crank welded when they rebuild the topend on my shee and they said they have never welded a banshee crank because they feel its not needed. They said if the crank thats in it isent within certian tolerances they will just buy a new wiseco crank and put in there. They said they ''stand behind the motors they build'' so if something goes wrong I know who to go after They build and rebuild alot of banshees and everyone I know says they do good work but I would like to get everyones opinions on here(BHQ) about them not wanting to weld the crank....especialy since they want no less than 150psi compression when its done. Thanks in advance for any/all replies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadfoot350 Posted March 1, 2004 Report Share Posted March 1, 2004 I am preaty sure the wiseco crank comes welded. If wiseco does it then it has to be good. I have never seen it happen but I have only been around for 2 years but I welded mine just incase and other people here have seen it happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justintoxicated Posted March 1, 2004 Report Share Posted March 1, 2004 mine started to seperate with low compression and stock pipes... Sounds to me like they want to make some money off you and replace it with a weisco. IMO I would not want them to work on my Banshee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolRaptor2001 Posted March 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2004 Sounds to me like they want to make some money off you and replace it with a weisco Thats what I was thinking. They quoted me roughly $4-600 for topend including everything and installing a tors elimination kit i got and about $1100 if the crank was no good. How does that sound price-wise? My stealership wanted $700 for just topend rebuild Ill have to do some more checking on everything before I have it rebuilt. I dont have anyway to transport it now so ill use this time to do research i guess. Theres only 1 other atv place within 2 hours drive distance from here so iam kinda limited on where i can take it(mainly because I dont have a driver liscense). Thanks for your input guys, its much appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frocashmoney24 Posted March 1, 2004 Report Share Posted March 1, 2004 holy great pile of steaming shit! 700 bucks for a top end? you can buy a kit get the jugs bored and a tors kit for 300-350 if u do it urself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SICK BOY Posted March 1, 2004 Report Share Posted March 1, 2004 I'd shop around,because it sounds like this guy plays with himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boonman Posted March 1, 2004 Report Share Posted March 1, 2004 You live in Ohio??? Where in Ohio?? If you're in the eastern side, get the hell up to my house, maybe a 1-2 hour ride. Welding the crank KEEPS THE TOLERANCES IN SPEC. How do these morons think things get out of spec? It either happens because of wear on the bearings or other parts and/or seperation of the crank lobes.... Welding the crank eliminates the latter of the two options... I wouldn't go back to those clowns. Doing a top end is simple. You need a top end kit. Which consists of a new set of pistons, rings, upper rod bearings and a gasket set. You may need to have the cylinders bored. That costs anywhere from $35-$50 per cylinder. The top end kit can usually be had for around $160. These guys sound like they have their asses on backwards. You can do this top end rebuild yourself. Grab a Clymer repair manual and get to it. Or, come to my house, bring some beers, and we'll do it. You pay for parts and beer. We'll finish the motor, and then have some beers. My wife will whip up some food, and all will be well. bring the whole bike, and we'll break the motor in and go ride.... Seriously, it's not hard..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nighty Posted March 1, 2004 Report Share Posted March 1, 2004 Now thats a great offer CoolRaptor2001. thats like a WIN WIN WIN situation beer + food + fixed banshee. can you weld cranks boon? just wondering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolRaptor2001 Posted March 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 Thanks for the offer boonman I would take ya up on it except i might have some trouble with the beer, unless i can find a place who sells it to 16 year olds. Iam gonna check into all this alot more than I have. Ive been screwed by the stealerships sooo many times. I would like to do it myself, so iam gonna look it all over in the manual before I see if iam go tearing into it. My main problem with working on my shee...I bought it used and theres like 900 diff. nuts bolts and screws on it. None matching of course. Iam not even gonna mention how many stripped/broke off/bent things that are on it lol. Thanks for all your helpfull replies, dunno what i would do without you this place. holy great pile of steaming shit! 700 bucks for a top end? ^^^^My thoughts exactly Again thanks everyone P.S.-I live about 30 minutes outside of Marietta, out past Lower Salem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banshee04le Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 can you weld cranks boon? I think THENEWGUY welds cranks . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boonman Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 Yep, I can weld cranks. I am designing a jig so I can check runout and trueness as well. I have one out of a mottor I am rebuilding right now that I am going off of. Hopefully sooner than later. I have alot on my plate right now though.... and lmmfao on "thenewguy" shizzle!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
350duner Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 I guess those guys haven't seen some of the cranks I have (or they can't get more than 50hp out of a banshee) if they've never seen one separate! The last one we did was separated about 1/4" and 8 thousandths off true. We pressed it back together, trued it and welded it. A lot easier than spending hundreds on a new crank. Maybe they don't know how... or maybe they are the type of shop that will tell you you need a new engine when you have a blown headgasket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolRaptor2001 Posted March 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 They dont have the eqipment to weld cranks I tihnk they said. Figures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaynSand Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 Hey CoolRaptor , For that kind of money you can get a topend and port job , PM PassionRE and check his prices. Sounds like these guys are trying to rip you off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limitied03 Posted March 3, 2004 Report Share Posted March 3, 2004 Man those guys are crazy if they want 700 bucks....i just rebuilt my topend and put a new crank that had been welded for like 550 bucks.....that was everything....definatly shop around man....you'll be glad you did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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