shee4202 Posted February 16, 2004 Report Share Posted February 16, 2004 Im looking to buy a cylinder kit for my banshee and right now im looking into rossier engineering 400cc powervalve kit and cheetah 400cc kit. can anybody give me any info on either of these kits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion6781 Posted February 16, 2004 Report Share Posted February 16, 2004 From my understanding, the rossier kit comes ported. same engines, one is ported. Just what I heard. Not absolutley positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat_Head Posted February 16, 2004 Report Share Posted February 16, 2004 T-REX vs Cheetahs in this particular case you will be better off with a Cheetah top end, the set up will be cheaper and you will end up with a little more power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flat track king Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 i dont know muchabout trinitys motors so dont take this personal all tou trinity guys but.. i havent heard many good things about trinity, yesterday i raced a guy with a stage IV port&polished and cool head trinity motor and he said it was a 380 well.. the turnout was on a 1/2 mile flat track i had a 1/2 of a lap on him and im on a stock bore with a port and polish.. but he wasnt sporting powervalves so aain no offese to you trinity guys.. just my 2 cents..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat_Head Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 All Trinity does with the Cheetah cylinders is selling them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MULLET~BOY Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 CP Industries Inc builds them trinity sells them like meat head said from what i understand the cheetah cylinders are easyer to get more power out of then the trex cylinders are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRMOONEY Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 YES BUT YOU CANT BORE THE CHEETCHA CYLINDERS LIKE YOU CAN THE TREX. THE ONLY DIFFENCE I KNOW OF IS YOU HAVE TO PORT THE T REX WHICH IS A LITTLE MORE MONEY BUT BETTER IN THE LONG RUN THE NIKISIL COATING IN THE CHEETCHA IS KINDA SPENDY FROM WHAT I HEARD AND THERE TURN AROUND IS PRETTY LONG, ALSO THERE ARENT MANY PEOPLE THAT DO THE NIKISIL COATINGS. I WOULD GET TREX IF I WAS YOU AND HAVE IT PORTED FOR WHAT YOU WANT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q8bizkit78 Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 i agree with mr mooney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat_Head Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 I have ran both set ups so far and i guess we will just have to agree to disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MULLET~BOY Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 yeah i duno if any know if this is true or not i heard the NIKISIL they use in the cheetah is not verry hard for some reasion the nice thing about nikisil is usaly if you blow the pistion you can run a dimond hone threw the sleaves and throw new pistions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat_Head Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 I heard that too Jethro, i think there was a batch of cylinders that werent plated correctly so far i havent had any problems with mines.It is true that in alot of cases with Nikasil plated cylinders when you trash a piston the only thing you have to do is to clean the cyls and throw in a new set of pistons, not always though... I love the T-REX set up and i am not putting it down but like i said earlier, in this particular case i would opt for a set of Cheetahs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00BANSHEE Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 yeah i duno if any know if this is true or not i heard the NIKISIL they use in the cheetah is not verry hard for some reasion the nice thing about nikisil is usaly if you blow the pistion you can run a dimond hone threw the sleaves and throw new pistions I thought I read on here that NYUK trashed a piston in his cheetahs with no damage to the cylinders at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MULLET~BOY Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 then they probably fixed the problem thats how its suposed to be i walways thought did you guys know you can actully send your cylinders out to places and the can nikisil the stock cylinders it cost about the same as having them resleaved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducman Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 Does anybody have any long term experience with the maintenance cost with a nikisil cylinder? Doesn't the nikisil make a set of rings last a whole lot longer? Does it extend rebuilts and usually make a blown piston just a mater of honing the cylinder to clean it up and throw in a new set of pistons, or does the nikisil end up getting wrecked often enough requireing a re-cote? In the second case you end up loosing any savings in the long run (say 6 years) that you would have made due to less maintenance cost in the short run (say 3 years). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat_Head Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 Does anybody have any long term experience with the maintenance cost with a nikisil cylinder? Doesn't the nikisil make a set of rings last a whole lot longer? Does it extend rebuilts and usually make a blown piston just a mater of honing the cylinder to clean it up and throw in a new set of pistons, or does the nikisil end up getting wrecked often enough requireing a re-cote? In the second case you end up loosing any savings in the long run (say 6 years) that you would have made due to less maintenance cost in the short run (say 3 years). From the experience we have with sleds around here Nikasil plated cylinders will last longer and most of the times when you trash a set of pistons, you clean the cyls slap a new set of pistons in there and you are ready to go.With that said after some time the Nikasil plated cyls will get damaged and this is where it becomes costly...All in all id say it evens it self out, iron sleeves vs nikasil plated so personnally i dont care if a top end is plated or if it uses regular sleeves.The fact that there is a shop who plates cylinders about an hour from where i live may influence my judgement, we can get our cyls plated in 7-10 days... The rings doesnt really last longer but the bores do since Nikasil is stronger or harder than the rings are,this is why it extends rebuilds unless disaster strikes of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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