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I like to ride year round... however, the hard starting in the winter is a pain. Been reading through the following thread:

 

http://www.bansheehq.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=21558

 

Anybody have any agreements/disagreements on that iridium plug for winter? Any other cold weather starting tips or tricks? Currently I'm mixing 32:1 with Yamalube 2-R and jetted pretty close to perfect (slightly rich) for the current weather.

 

Just looking for any tips, tricks, or ideas. Thanks!

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Not sure if the choke is okay. I'm used to the ones that you flip and leave and then just flip back when you want to turn them off. This pulls out and promptly goes right back in. Almost like a primer would. For this to stay out, I have to hold it out. Somewhere I read about these being vacuum activated or something, so not sure if that has anything to do with it. It does have a small hose going to the right carb, right about where the choke would be.

 

Ideas?

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I'm used to my 900RR choke... those are vacuum-slide carbs on that. The choke comes out and stays out until you tell it to go back in :) Mine doesn't appear to though.

 

Whats teh story on getting a new plunger? How much, and how hard is it to replace? If thats the deal, I want to get it done *now*.

 

As mentioned... if you pull it out, it goes right back in.. like vacuum pulling it back in. So... no ideas. Carb gurus? :)

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Mine definitely doesn't stay out.. kind of thought that was weird but hey... never had one before :) The crossover tube appears to be in good shape but... anything on the other side (right side) that needs to be changed too?

 

Thanks for the ideas.. its somewhere to start!

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Mine definitely doesn't stay out..

I would definitely pursue the cause of this. Your choke should be staying out until you want to push it back in. That is the cause of your kicking situation. My machine will start within 4 or 5 kicks when choked, no matter how cold. Smoking, it does do some, but thats a different story.

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I have been having problems in the cold too. But before it got cold it was taking a good 5 kicks to get it started. Now I have to spray some ether in there or I will kick it until i am blue in the face. I think it is definately too much air because if i put my air box lid on it helps. But then i have to take it back off or it will sufficate when i hit the gas. I did just put in new larger main jets. I am going to put in bigger pilots soon. Anyone think that will help? Top end runs great

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Eeek... ether is one thing I won't try on mine. Even the stuff with the upper cylinder lube is still scary to me.

 

Well... time for a new choke :) Is this a dealer-only item or are there aftermarket replacements for it? I'm ordering a bunch of junk soon which is why I asked...

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I have been having problems in the cold too. But before it got cold it was taking a good 5 kicks to get it started.  Now I have to spray some ether in there or I will kick it until i am blue in the face. I think it is definately too much air because if i put my air box lid on it helps. But then i have to take it back off or it will sufficate when i hit the gas. I did just put in new larger main jets.  I am going to put in bigger pilots soon. Anyone think that will help?  Top end runs great

Ahh, the famous "top end it runs great" Perfect scenario for a lean bike. Only a matter of time and BAM..... motor goes.

I would jet up on mains and pilots ASAP and don't ride it until you do.

You also might have an air leak?

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I started mine for the first time in a month and it took me about 10-15 kicks to get it started.....just didnt want to start today I guess. Usually it'll take about 4-7 when its cold. In the summer it takes 2-3, and when its warm every time I kick it over it'll start....unless I'm lazy or something.

 

Some just like to start faster than others I guess. I'd say that choke not staying out would be my main concern. How is it that when the bikes off and you pull it out a little between first and second setting it'll pull back in?.....Spring loaded?

 

I'd say try holding your choke out all the way with one hand, and kicking it over and see if it'll start any easier for you. You might want to look into a compression tester to see what your compression is at. It's a lot harder to start a bike thats starting to get a worn top end.

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