H300F Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 A little while ago I replaced my front shocks with triple rate nonadjustable pep's for +2+1 arms. I am using stock aarms with flipped wheels, giving me 45.5" wide (which I thought would be equiv. to +2 arms), and a lonestar axle giving me 48" wide. I also replaced the rear shock with a rebuilt, revalved, ebach sprung, stock shock, which was not setup for me since I bought these shocks used but the previous owner was about the same weight as me. Anyways I have a few questions about how these shocks are performing. 1. If I hit the top of a whoop with the back tires while the front tires are inbetween the whoops, should this result in the rear end bucking upwards? 2. If I don't see a rough section or whooped section ahead of me and I'm in a normal riding stance ( not leaning back and pinned) not prepared for the whoops and moving at a decent speed, should this result in the quad bouncing around and mainly the rear end rearing up and trying to toss me off? 3. When I go through a whooped section, prepared, leaning back, pinned, should the quad break up from the ground like mine is and only getting bits and pieces of traction? Sometimes through whoops I will try to jump the face of one and land the backside of the next, is this a good alternative to just balls out ripping through the whoops? How should my quad act. It seems it likes to leave the ground and get somewhat squirrly and sort of make me feel in a somewhat uncontrollable feeling. And lastly, I don't know if its my front shocks that are not working properly or the rear shock. And if its the front that are acting up, can I compensate for them by adjusting the rear since I cannot adjust the fronts. And how do I go about adjusting the rear to work for me? Thanks for any help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
. Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 When you press down on your grab bar how fast does it come back up? It shouldnt come up to fast, or to slow. I try to bring my front end up over gaps in whoops and my rear end soaks them up pretty well. I have the stock rear axle on mine so when I get into whoops real quick my back end tends to fish tail buck around. I'm thinking that your rear shock isnt adjusted right. You want it to be able to compress quickly to soak up a bump, but you dont want it to pop back real quick because it'll make the back end bounce, nor to slow because then it will stay compressed and do much of the same thing. I've got a works setup rear and it does rather well through the rough stuff. I'd say go find some whoops and rip through them, adjust it, and then rip through them again until you find something that makes you happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banchetta Posted February 2, 2004 Report Share Posted February 2, 2004 You have to slow down the rebound. Right now your rear shock is like a spring board, after it compresses, its springing up too fast. You can slow it down w/ the dial on the bottom of the shock where the bolt goes through....It has 18 clicks...Too fast and you know what happens on any bump....make it too slow and it'll ride great over the first 2-4 bumps then start bucking from the suspension "packing up" which mean, after each bump, the suspension moves up, but doesn't come down fast enough for the next bump, so the suspension keeps losing more and more travel after each bump....I agree, go through the whoops over and over again, while adjusting the rebound setting....this is the best place to adjust it.....depending on the size of whoops, I usually lean all the way back and pin it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H300F Posted February 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2004 Do I turn it clockwise or counter for less rebound? I forgot to mention, every now and then when jumping I feel the rear shock bottom, can this be adjusted with the nut above the spring? or do I use the dial on the rez, compression? thanks for the help guys. by the way how wide are your shees with +2 aarms if you happen to know off hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H300F Posted February 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2004 " . " the rear shock rises pretty quick from what I can tell and compared to my old shock. It seems like it compresses more quickly too when I get on the quad. And I notice when I peg the gas she squats more in the back and the fronts pull up about 2inches of travel. What happens when you have the compression turned down to far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banchetta Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 Your spring may be too loose. Get off the shee and pull the wheelie bar up until the suspension stops, measure the distance between the ground and wheelie bar, now get on it in normal riding position and have a friend remeasure....It should only squat 2-2.5"...If it squats more, then tighten the spring....If it still bottoms easily ALL the time, then turn the compression knob on the res to the "H" for hard....as far as the rebound, I can't remember, the best way is to turn it all the way to one side and push really fast on the wheelie bar, it'll either rebound like a spring or like a cushion of a couch..then you'll know... W/ my +2 arms from quicksands, and ITP rolled egde rims (which I think are stock offset) I have 46.75" wide in the front... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mybadbanshee Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 H300 do you still have your stock rear shock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89 bansheedude Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 it sounds to me that his compression rebound adjustment is woreout, needs to be rebuilt. thats the way mine was acting and i had to get it rebuilt. but im not a shock expert. jayare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H300F Posted February 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 - no i traded my stock shock plus cash. 89 - the shock was recently rebuilt/revalved/resprung. im going to have to adjust everything on it since it seems everything is alittle to lightly adjusted for me. thanks for all the help guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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