fah_Q Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Would you guys sugest getting the timing key that is about 20 buck or pass? All i ride in is the sand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blue Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 i have a +4 key in mine and it works fine, but most would say buy a timing plate, just depends on how much you want to spend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2004LEBanshee Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 From what I heard is that if there not installed correctly they can shear. I tried to mod my stock plate it was pretty easy but waiting to get my head and fly wheel back to tell if I did it right. Just moved the holes 4mm to the left I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banshee boy 98 Posted February 4, 2004 Report Share Posted February 4, 2004 i have a 3 deg key in mine from alba action . no problems. i noticed that it ran a little smoother, but not realy any more power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95prerunner Posted February 4, 2004 Report Share Posted February 4, 2004 I bought the 4+ degree key from alba and installed it correctly along with a new top end job. With about six hours of duning in Glamis my shee lost compression. Both pistons melted and scarred the cylinder walls. When I split the cases to clean out the crank area, I found the degree key had broken into two pieces. My theory is that the erratic timing cause the melt down. So a $20.00 part cost me about $300.00 and a lot of work. Just my two cents. My recommendation would be to modify the stock timing plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDD Posted February 4, 2004 Report Share Posted February 4, 2004 Alba doesn't sell +4 keys... only +3. If you paid 20 bucks you paid too much as well. How did you install the key? Did you use a torque wrench? I bet the reason you smoked your topend was from detonation cause by too high of compression and not high enough octane gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGHSCANDYMAN Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 can you install both a timingplate and the timing key??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95prerunner Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 SDD It was advertised as a +4 degree key, yes it was installed correctly, yes I used a torque wrench with cylimer manual specs. Yes you are right I didn't pay $20.00 for it, but I didn't think anyone would mind me rounding up. As far as compression, I have 21cc domes and I use premium pump gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDD Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 How much kicking compression do you have Prerunner? What kind of oil do you use also? Was the tank of gas that you had in the bike old? Have you tried a leak down test to make sure you didn't have any air leaks? These are the reasons I think you melted down... the timing advanced only compounded these problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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