sheebroke Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 91 shee stock . ok guys shee was runnin and then it was like hitin the kill switch dead as hell . ran some test pu coil was bad got new one on (ty ben) everything else tested ok . thought i had a short somewear under the tank all the wires look good . i put a good cdi box on and still no fire RRRRRR!!! maybe i missed a plug hell i dont no anyone got any ideas ? thanks for any info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 are your sparkplugs sparking ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheebroke Posted January 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 nope nothin dead as hell ... tors removed e-brake blocked off, key removed . shes dead as hell man . guess i have to pay someone to fix her iv tryed everything i no to try and alot of things iv read on here (BHQ) im using a 01/02 CDI not real sure i had to cut and splice to my style plugs the new 1 had 1 extra wire white/green on the male plug i left it unpluged , does it need to connect with another plug or leave it alone ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenBB Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 OK 2 things: 1. You said key switch removed, are the two wires on the wiring harness side of the connector spliced or otherwise connected together? It won't run if these two wires don't have a complete circuit; the key switch works opposite of the handlebar kill switch: when the red/black wire is grounded it's "on", when the black/red wire is not grounded it's "off"...the white/black for the handlebar kill switch is "off" when grounded and "on" when the circuit is open. 2. Recheck the colors coming from the test CDI and your wiring harness (the known working CDI). They should match in color on both sides of the connector, with the exception of one odd one (probably purple). The green/white wire comes from the stator, you need that one to get to the CDI. This wiring diagram might help you to eliminate what isn't needed for it to run, you can disregard the lighting circuits for now: You gotta have red/white, red/green, red, and green going from the stator to the CDI. You gotta have orange and black going from the CDI to the coil (black is also grounded at the stator and the frame, usually at the voltage regulator mount). Last, you gotta have red/black grounded to black to run, and white/black NOT grounded. Hope this helps, I know you've been at it long enough... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheebroke Posted January 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 on the good cdi 01/02 (yr) there's a green/yellow that is not hooked up thats the odd 1 . all others are hooked up . im gonna mess with it some more befor i hall it to a bike shop its really pissin me off . thanks for the pic and info ben u'v been alot of help and i owe ya big time . i'll let ya no what happens . jeff o ya the key wires are right it ran befor never messed with them ... ill check tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruff_rida69 Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 the same thing happen on my yz250 I was in the middle of a XC race, well it crunk and run fine but then about 30mins and 7 miles in the woods it died, I thought I fouled a plug but when I finally got it out and got it home i found out That water got into the kill switch and messed somethin up, so i would try messin with the kill switch, and maybe un pluging it and just plug the wires together with no kill switch and see if it runs, Hope this helps, Jonathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenBB Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 Damn gremlins. Sounds like you've done everything right and shee's still angry. One more thing to check, is continuity through the wires and to ground; with an ohmmeter make sure you have continuity from the CDI connector (the wiring harness side) to the following: Check red/white, green/white, red, and green to the wiring harness side of the stator 4-wire connector, AND to ground...you should have continuity between each color on both connectors and no continuity to ground (if to ground you know a wire is touching the frame or is melted and contacting the ground wire, also make sure there's not continuity between each color and the others...so like stick one end of the ohmmeter on the red wire at the CDI connector, and one at a time stick it on each of the other colors at the stator end and ground to see if it beeps). Check black wire at CDI connector, ground eyelet at voltage regulator, and coil wire for continuity to the frame. Check white/black wire at CDI connector for continuity and no ground at the handlebar kill switch. Check orange wire for continuity and no ground from CDI to coil. Make sure red/black wire has continuity to ground. Good luck, I know you can find it, just take your time and you'll get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheebroke Posted January 21, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 well hell ... tested all the wires that u said and if i did it right i got a beep everytime i tested . i just dont understand it everything is testing out ok and still nothing i guess im not doin somthing right .. so im gonna take it to a doctor and let him do it i called him today he said he could fix it so its his prob now . again thanks alot ben for all the info . shee just dont like me lol thanks again for all the help guys really jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
. Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 one last thing, did you pull the plug caps back and make sure that they're actually connected? I doubt it would happen on both sides....but its worth a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheatchex Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 One thing if testing continuity of the stator coils. If you get continuity, it doesn't necessarily mean that the coil is good. Banshee stators are have known problems in that the wires of the coil will break even though the epoxy looks sound. I had the same problem with mine. I had checked everything and it all seemed good. Had the ignition coil tested and checked all the switches and wires. What was weird was the the lighting side of the stator was fine and intially when being towed and trying to bump start the engine the lights worked but no fire. That's what threw me initially. But a systematic elimination of all the parts determined that either the CDI or the stator was bad. I decided to try the stator first and sent it out to Ricky Stator and had them rewind the ignition side after seeing the cost of a new stator from Yamaha. Well worth the investment from Ricky Stator and they can also rewind the lighting side for more power output while doing the igniton side. You could also rewind the stator yourself if you can find the wire and epoxy as some have done here. Wheatchex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheeman8 Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 I had a problem just like this and I ran my own ground wire for the coil and it fired right up. I think the ground broke somewhere in the frame and it wasn't making a complete circuit. Don't know if this helps but its worth a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poncho Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 bansheeman8, I had to do the same thing last year to my 88 banshee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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