04Banshee Posted January 16, 2004 Report Share Posted January 16, 2004 I need everyones opinion on the mods I am planning on getting for my 04 banshee. I want a set of Toomey pipes either T5 or T6 w/2:1 filter,V-force reeds and noss cool head. What do you think? What other mods can I do that will make noticable power besides porting? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just for fun Posted January 16, 2004 Report Share Posted January 16, 2004 Thats an outstanding start. I would just add some good rear tires and you should be good to go for a few years. When the engine needs rebuilding/boring get it ported and polished and have the crank trued and welded. That will last you a few more years as well. Depending on your riding, and looking at your pipe choice, just get the CPI's right off the bat. My stock Banshee has T-5's, cool head, V-Force and Pro Design foam filter and plate and if I had it to do all over again, knowing porting/polishing and boring is eminant for that shee I would have just gotten the CPI's. I have CPI's and porting along with some other items on the below listed Shee and it is a huge improvement over my stock one with pipes, head etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoin39 Posted January 16, 2004 Report Share Posted January 16, 2004 Porting and mill the head would be the most noticeable mods after the pipes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadfoot350 Posted January 16, 2004 Report Share Posted January 16, 2004 I agree about the cpi pipes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortys racing Posted January 16, 2004 Report Share Posted January 16, 2004 I need everyones opinion on the mods I am planning on getting for my 04 banshee. I want a set of Toomey pipes either T5 or T6 w/2:1 filter,V-force reeds and noss cool head. What do you think? What other mods can I do that will make noticable power besides porting? Thanks i think CPI inframes are a better choice, but if you are going to leave your bike stock then T-6's are for you.....if you plan on porting it later then T-5 are better. But if I had a choice between all 3 I would go with the CPI's..... You'll thank yourself later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
04Banshee Posted January 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2004 I think the Cpis are nothing but a top end pipe and the Toomeys have a lot more midrange. Is this true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just for fun Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 Currently having both pipes on two completely different shees the CPI's and T-5's are in fact, very similar. The CPI's work great with a ported motor although I dont have any experience with them on a stock motor. The T-5's work great on the stock motor shee but again, I have nothing to compare it to when it comes to a ported shee with the T-5's. I suspect that the CPI's will outperform the T-5s on the ported shee and will test that out this summer. I am not aware of an overly huge loss of the bottom end with either pipe as well. Hope I didnt confuse you with all of this, just some of my observations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
04Banshee Posted January 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 Thanks for the info Just for fun. Maybe I will go with the CPIs instead. Anyone else have any opinions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmith Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 Unless all you want to do is drag race, I would go with new front shocks after the pipes. I also agree with the CPIs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoin39 Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 Not dissin the CPI's or anything, they are a good pipe. My friends and I drag and hillclimb alot, one has CPI's and the other has T6's, both are stock and both are very good riders, the T6's are about 1-1/2 bike lengths behind me and the CPI's are just behind him everytime. You can see my mods so that is why they are behind me but this is just my experience firsthand. The CPI's are good, I just personally like the Toomey's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
04Banshee Posted January 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 I still am unsure what pipes I want but I am confused about something...Toomey told me that the T5s would be better than the T6s with reeds and a coolhead. I thought that the T6 wouldnt work as well as T5s on a ported motor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoin39 Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 On just a ported engine they work good, if you change the port-timing then the T5's are better. I had a long conversation with a tech there and this is the confusion. Porting is OK for the T6, but if the port-timing is changed you will see more gains with the T5's. The more it is modified "internally" the better the T5's outperform the T6's. I posted my conversation in a mods/parts forum somewhere awhile back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
04Banshee Posted January 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 One of the techs there told me that the T6s w/reeds only will out perform the T5s w/reeds and cool head. He said hes not sure if it will make or loose power running cool head on the T6s. Can anyone tell me if they are making or loosing any power with the T6s w/reeds and a cool head? Thanks everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PassionRE Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 Your not going to lose power running a cool head with correct domes with any pipe application. If you fall prey to the horsepower bug later down the road, and you will, steer clear from the T-6 and go with a T-5 or CPI. And contrary to popular belief, the CPI's are a pretty damn good torque pipe with the right porting combo regardless of what they were originally designed for.....Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
04Banshee Posted January 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 I am pretty sure I wont be porting my banshee. I heard the cpis work great on ported motors thats why I kinda want Toomeys instead. I just cant decide on the T5s or T6s. Toomey said that the T6s were specifically designed for a stock bike and if I put a cool head on, he said it might mess with the way the power band hits and maybe even the performance even with the correct domes. Thats why I asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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