MULLET~BOY Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 i like the honda two stroke tranny oil really thick stuff i change my oil after evry trip usaly get about 10 hours of ridding in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nighty Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 WOW.. and here i am.. changing it every 3 months! lets see that would come around: 80 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holyman Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 I WIN!!! How many hours in 2 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001SSTBanshee Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 Castrol GTX 20w50, change it after almost every ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blk02banshee Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 Why do you guys change your oil so often? If it gets that dirty and breaks down that fast, then there's something wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00BANSHEE Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 I have about 3 grand in motor. I look at it as cheap insurance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001SSTBanshee Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 Why do you guys change your oil so often? If it gets that dirty and breaks down that fast, then there's something wrong My oil never breaks down or looks dirty. I would probably have a heart attack if it did. Sometimes (usually) I feel like Im riding hard on my clutch. Just because your oil "looks" clean, doesnt mean it is clean. Look closely next time you drain it and you'll see tiny, shiny piecs of the clutch (about the size of sand). This is what happens, and thats why I change my oil all the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheeJerry Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 I was under the impression that you shouldnt use automotive oil because the additives will cause the clutch to slip and wear out faster.. Everybody using regular automotive oil should switch to an oil made for wet clutches with no additives. Just my 2 cents.. I also change mine after 3 or so rides. A magnetic drain plug is cheap insurance too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001SSTBanshee Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 I was under the impression that you shouldnt use automotive oil because the additives will cause the clutch to slip and wear out faster.. Everybody using regular automotive oil should switch to an oil made for wet clutches with no additives. Just my 2 cents.. I also change mine after 3 or so rides. A magnetic drain plug is cheap insurance too... So I should go pay $6-$7 a quart or more? Thanks, but no thanks. "motorcycle oils" are no better, and there are usually no major differences in the additives. IMO These additives that you are talking about are friction modifiers and they are NOT in all "motor oils" Do you know who refines Honda oil? Mobil. Stuwart Toomey recomends Castrol 20w50 in the instructions for the Toomey clutch install, check your owner's manual and see what it calls for in the tranny, call Hinson and talk to them about oil, etc., etc., I could go on and on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oilsmoke Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 I am telling you In 30 Year Nothing beats Clean Cheap motor Oil. I like a fresh oil change after every good dune ride. Clutches last along time in those 30 years of rideing dirt bike, road bikes etc... Gtx is about 1.70 qt. And works great, keeping it Clean is your filter. SO keep the metal out. Tranny gears Don't like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blk02banshee Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 I'm not saying I never change my oil, but every other ride seems a little excessive. I know what clutch matierial and metal looks like in oil, and I know when my oil is clean. Whenever I ride through deep water or mud, or ride in extremely dusty conditions, YES I change my oil afterwards. I used to use golden spectro 4, but now I use valvoline ATV oil, which is designed for wet clutches. Shifts real smooth. Every other change, I add a little lucas additive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheeJerry Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 Thats the same oil I use (valvoline atv 10/40). Good stuff. And it doesnt cost $7 a quart either. Around 3 bucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justintoxicated Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 I use golden spectro motorcycle gear oil. It's supposed to have extra addatives that help to preserve your wet clutch. Im not talking about friction modifiers that are bad in SOME conventional oil, just that this stuff IS supposed to be better than conventional oil...This is a long ongoing debate, but $6 for a quart vs 3 vs new tranny is a no brainer for me. I don't see much metal shavings in my oil when I drain it either, I usualy don't see any unless I have neglected to change it for a long time. I usualy change it every 2-3 trips to the dunes depending on how many gallons I put through her or how hard I am on the clutch. The only time I have ever really sceen metal shavings was when i first broke it in then there was a little sparkle, now when i change it you have to really pay close attention to see any at all. not saying conventional oil is HORRIBLE, just that this stuff is a little better. A new tranny is more than a new topend, yet everyone is so concerned about using the best oil in their pre-mix? Just my 2 cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesw Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 i tried the 10w40 route and my bike was a bitch to shift missed gears like a bitch. a guy told me about bel ray. tried it instint improvement. some claim that its not good since toomey dont recommend it but after field testing it, it was way better than just oil. the atf type f fluid deal i going to try it next. belray looked like it, smelled like it, cost 4x more. i remember after getting my truck tranny rebuild that put a semi hard shift kit in it. it had type f in it and would shift good and hard, second gear scratch, changed the fluid to regular decron whatever and didnt shift as good so i changed it back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxBansheeRacing Posted January 14, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 Where do you get the valvoline atv 10/40? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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