MO Banshee Posted December 18, 2003 Report Share Posted December 18, 2003 I have a 01 Banshee FMF Gnarly pipes and K&N Filter. I am confused why the thing is so hard to start after it sits for a couple of weeks. I have checked the compression 120 in each cylinder which is right on for my elevation. I pull start it and once it fires it runs perfect. No miss no hesitation no nothing. After I ride it for a while. I can shut it off turn the gas off and leave it sit for a couple of hours and it will start in 1 kick. I have installed a new coil and spark looks good. Choke appears to be working properly. Carbs are in Sync. Curious if maybe it is the Reeds? Help my right leg can't take much more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeechozen1 Posted December 18, 2003 Report Share Posted December 18, 2003 On mine after its been sittin for a while, I kick it over slowly 2 or 3 times just to cycle the motor then try to start it and it usually starts first swift kick i give it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boonman Posted December 18, 2003 Report Share Posted December 18, 2003 Sounds to me like the choke circuit isn't working? Anybody been tinkering with the carbs? Could have switched the float bowls. Or, the pilot jet could be clogged. Does it idle once it starts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MO Banshee Posted December 18, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2003 Carbs are bone stock no body has touched them. Idles perfect once started. I think I might take the carbs off and clean them. I have heard that if the reeds are getting stiff that they won't allow enough air fuel mixture in to start and maybe thats why when I have someone pull start me it turns over faster and creates more vacuum than the kick starter generates. Thanks for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boonman Posted December 18, 2003 Report Share Posted December 18, 2003 Could be a weak stator, but i am thinking it has something to do with the choke circuit. Clean the carbs, and see where you get from there..... pulling it does create more vacuum due to the higher RPM, and this would pull a little more fuel from the jet. However, I don't think the stiff reed theory will hold any water. I don't see that happening. If it cracked off, that would be a different story.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigboybanshee Posted December 18, 2003 Report Share Posted December 18, 2003 I'm interested to hear what the final result of this problem is...I have the same issue. Shee'll start no problem when its "warm" but if it has been sitting for a while I might as well hang it up. I usually just squirt a touch of fuel in the choke tube and it fires right off; I too am thinking my choke isn't working properly. It has done this ever since I put the engine together and at that time the carbs were immaculate, reeds were brand new, no issues whatsoever...just didn't wanna start when cold. I've gotten so used to giving the bansh her injection before startup it doesn't really bother me anymore; although I would love to fix the problem if I knew what to do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boonman Posted December 18, 2003 Report Share Posted December 18, 2003 Choke isn't functioning properly. I let my bike sit for months on end. Throw some fresh fuel in the tank, hop on, and it fires right up, no matter whqat the weather.,..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigboybanshee Posted December 18, 2003 Report Share Posted December 18, 2003 Choke isn't functioning properly. Is there a way to fix the choke? Any ideas on fixing the choke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
got1banshee Posted December 18, 2003 Report Share Posted December 18, 2003 I had a friend that had that problem, I would kick the shit out of it and it would never start. Hitch up to the truck or quad and put it down the street and it would start up after about 50-75 feet of pulling it in gear. What a pain in the ass. I have seen alot of shees start up on the first and second kick no mater what the weather was like or how long it was siting. Mine normaly takes about 10-15 kicks when cold but 1st kick when worm. I think I know what my problem is, I think my choke plunger is bad because it wont stay out on its own. I would like to hear the out come of this aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MO Banshee Posted December 18, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2003 Got1Banshee Exactly what I am talking about you pull start it and she runs fine. What did your friend do to fix the problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efward Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 I've got the same thing going on. Fires up first kick when it's warm, but it's a bitch to start after it's been sitting a few weeks or longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brock_fuzzy_69 Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 hey whe you guys give it a few primne kicks before you try to start it i know ti soudns stupid but where is the throttle when you kick it over slowly do you open the throttle whiel you kick ti over to prime it???? i knwo tis a dumb? but hey i'm new as can be to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
got1banshee Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 Got1BansheeExactly what I am talking about you pull start it and she runs fine. What did your friend do to fix the problem He never did fix it, no one could figure it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blk02banshee Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 Mine almost always starts on the first kick, when cold. I have a ritual for the first start. check all switches, make sure they're on, as well as the fuel, then pull choke to full. go through a couple compression strokes by kicking it over slowly, gotta feel it...like thump thump...thump thump, Then give it one good fast kick and it starts. NO throttle needed until it first fires, then reach down and push the choke in to half for a few seconds, then turn choke off, and let it idle, blipping the throttle once in a while. I forgot.. I also hold the throttle just above idle after turning the choke off, then let it idle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandfool Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 check the basics first.make sure you pull the choke all the way out,about a full inch.mine has a first spot then pull a bit more and it'll go to the second spot.are you running old gas?also if you leave it outside in the weather the gas/premix can seperate below 35-40 degrees F.also what pilot jets are you running?most guys w/pipes and filters are using 27 or 30's.check float positions as well.kind of double check the basics first-its easy to get sidetracked with these funny problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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